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Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... realralfy #11009277 03/02/16
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30338 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,360 Likes: 1 Denver	Originally Posted by realralfy Originally Posted by 30338 I'm still scratching my head about placing an order that is bumping up against $4,000 for a rifle when I wasn't sure about action length or cartridge. Personally I'd probably want to handle a few to see if they were worth $4,000 to me. I am sure of the action length, absolutely want the Model 20 Short Action, said as much in my original post. I have handled plenty of NULA's, I just have never owned anything in 284 Winchester. Just want some thoughts on the 284 Win and other short action cartridges....why is that a headscratcher? Guess I was confused by some of posts talking 270/30-06 stuff. Can't go wrong with your 7mm-08. I had a 284 for a bit in an ULA and with the light contour barrel, it actually had kind of a sharp recoil to it. Sold it, but think a 7mm-08 would be better.

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Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... realralfy #11009283 03/02/16
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Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... realralfy #11009290 03/02/16
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longbarrel Campfire Regular L Joined: May 2009 Posts: 591	The .284 is the "classic" NULA Model 20. It is a factory round that gives the best and most for its basic case capacity. It is the first of the rebated rim cases, and a lot of recent case designs use the non-belted fat case, some with steep shoulder angles like the .284, but the others generally require a fatter bolt and receiver than the .284 which takes the standard .308 size bolt. Think of it as a fatter 7mm-08 improved. It gives you .280 Rem performance in the short, light Model 20 action. Once you have accumulated some brass, I see no advantage to the 7-08 over the .284 unless you are extremely recoil intolerant and would never use the extra velocity possible with the .30-06 size case of the .284 Win. NRA Benefactor Life Member NAHC Life Member

Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... realralfy #11010339 03/02/16
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Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... realralfy #11010437 03/02/16
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SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,670 Likes: 6 Midwest	Originally Posted by realralfy I placed my order this morning in 7mm-08, but have some time to change the caliber.... You're done. Sweat the scope now. WWP53D

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Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... realralfy #11010463 03/02/16
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lhead71 Campfire Regular L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,035 Ct	Well, here's the ULA in 284 I just bought from 257 Heaven (thank you again). The first hand load I tried was one recommended in an article as the most accurate in his ULA. 48.0 gr N 150, 150 Gr NBT @ 57K psi. As you can see the COAL is short at 2.825, considering the 3" mag box but it was a load I used in my Browning ABolt 284 with great success. 150 gr NBT leaving the muzzle at 2830 fps. Not too bad for accuracy at 100 yds, fired theses as fast as I could manipulate the bolt and squeeze again, not waiting for "cooling off". Yes, I missed the bulls eye, but I adjusted it after that and smashed steel out at 400 yds. Last edited by lhead71; 03/02/16. Enough already, just shoot it!

Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... realralfy #11010483 03/02/16
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Canazes9 Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,926 Louisiana	My 23" barrel 7mm-08AI is launching 150grn Scenars at 2900fps. 46.2grns RL17, Norma 7mm-08 brass, Fed210's. David

Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... Canazes9 #11010675 03/02/16
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lhead71 Campfire Regular L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,035 Ct	Thats fast, looking through my reloading notes, I played with that same load, same charge in a 22" 7mm-08 and I only got 2725fps, you picked up a lot of speed. Enough already, just shoot it!

Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... lhead71 #11010692 03/02/16
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Canazes9 Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,926 Louisiana	Originally Posted by lhead71 Thats fast, looking through my reloading notes, I played with that same load, same charge in a 22" 7mm-08 and I only got 2725fps, you picked up a lot of speed. Yep! The factory 22" Kimber barrel was only giving me ~2750fps with same load. Chamber is considerably tighter on the Hart barrel. David

Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... realralfy #11011383 03/02/16
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Aviator Campfire Regular A Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,570	The 150 ABLR would be a nice match for that 284 Win !

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Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... Aviator #11012118 03/03/16
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lhead71 Campfire Regular L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,035 Ct	Thats one I'm going to try soon! Enough already, just shoot it!

Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... lhead71 #11014365 03/03/16
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257heaven Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,854 The LBK......TX	Originally Posted by lhead71 Well, here's the ULA in 284 I just bought from 257 Heaven (thank you again). The first hand load I tried was one recommended in an article as the most accurate in his ULA. 48.0 gr N 150, 150 Gr NBT @ 57K psi. As you can see the COAL is short at 2.825, considering the 3" mag box but it was a load I used in my Browning ABolt 284 with great success. 150 gr NBT leaving the muzzle at 2830 fps. Not too bad for accuracy at 100 yds, fired theses as fast as I could manipulate the bolt and squeeze again, not waiting for "cooling off". Yes, I missed the bulls eye, but I adjusted it after that and smashed steel out at 400 yds. I am very glad that it went to someone that is shooting it. Spent far too much time in the safe here. Looks good, BTW. Sent from my Dingleberry Handheld Wireless

Re: Help me pick the Caliber of my NULA.... 30338 #11014370 03/03/16
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257heaven Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,854 The LBK......TX	Originally Posted by 30338 I'm still scratching my head about placing an order that is bumping up against $4,000 for a rifle when I wasn't sure about action length or cartridge. Personally I'd probably want to handle a few to see if they were worth $4,000 to me. I'd buy used or just buy 4 Montana's and have it all covered. But I am a NULA fan...having had 4 and still keeping one, I hope. Sent from my Dingleberry Handheld Wireless

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