Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Why not just get a 6.5x55?

I'm no expert but if you shoot the same bullet at the same velocity and same weight gun shouldn't the recoil be the same?
But, if the short action rifle weighs less than the long action one wouldn't it recoil more?

When I build on Swedish military Mausers for myself, I always make these three modifications:

1. Replace the military trigger with a Bold or Timney that has an integrated safety.

2. Replace the military bolt shroud with a commercial style that has a larger gas shield.

3. Install a Dayton-Traister cock-on-opening kit.

When I build on Swedish Mausers for my Norwegian bachelor farmer friend, I have always done the first two and have usually ended up doing the third after he has had some trigger time.

The weak link in the pre-1898 SR actions is their gas handling design, so the commercial style bolt shroud is, IMO, the most important safety modification when building on these actions.

Y'all got WAY more skills than I do.

I clean em, mount a scope, sight em in, rarely even adjust the trigger, then take em to the range and tweak the shooting.

Thanks for the reply, Dwayne, and the pic of the very nice rifle.

whackem - # 1 yes the recoil SHOULD be the same from the same weight rifle, but I was thinking about the 6.5 Cm using less powder and less velocity.

#2. yes- IF the SA does indeed weight less. But as you know, all rifles, SA don't weigh the same, some more and some less.

Over the yrs. I've had several 243s and the weights have varied A LOT.

Jerry

It ain't that tough.....Reloder 17 gets you there easy.

Sounds like my mother, she's 100% Norwegian. Me, I'm only 75% so I keep an open mind

But yeah, the 6.5mm was the blend of the best man had to offer and an admixture of the divine. Just ask any Norwegian!

Were I building a 6.5 in the USA it would be the Creed.

That's the first load I tried.... it's probably only 58k/psi, we ain't done yet.... and you gotta reef on a .260/Creed to get 2900+ outta a 130 AB in a 22" barrel.... been there....

Whatever the .260 will do.... the Swede will do 100fps faster.... I've got some RE17 here.... I could load that in the x55 too....

slight derail: I consider the M94s to be the best looking military rifle ever.

Yowser! You need glasses!!

Now, that little Mannlicher is cool. powdr

DS

What was your powder/charge? At best the x55 is good for another 50fps over the 6.5CM at equal pressures and barrel lengths. I'm certain '17 will work well, but you would probably come closer w/ IMR 7828 SSC. More is more, but if I've got to run a long action I would rather step up to a case designed for a long action.

David

Ergo, the reason for the 256 Newton to exist. Like all of baby bear's things, it is always just right. Too bad WW1 got in Charles Newton's way.

Accord to my case capacity chart, the 260 holds 53 grains of H2O, the 6.5x55 holds 57 grains of H2O, and the 256 Newton holds 61 grains of H2O.

The 4 grain increments are around 7% of the case capacity, so any speed increase should be in the 2% range, assuming all other variable factors remain the same for all three cartridges. The biggest catch being that all other variable factors are seldom the same.

I disagree... like 257's, 6.5's belong in cases 57mm and smaller...

Why?

The 25-06 is probably the most popular .257" bore cartridges ever, both as a wildcat and as a commercial cartridge. The 250-3000 is a nice cartridge in the Savage 99, but never sold well in any other rifle. The 257 Roberts is a nice cartridge, but the most popular bolt action rifle made during the Roberts' halcyon years was the Winchester 70 and their price today reflects their relative scarcity.

The shorter 6.5mm bore cartridges haven't sold well in the U.S., with the 6.5x55 probably being the most popular due to the glut of inexpensive mail-order Swedish Mausers post-WW2. But, it was never popular enough for Fed/Rem/Win to load factory ammo for it until Remington made a 1 year run of 700 Classics and Winchester/USRA cataloged it in the 70 on and off since 1985/86.

Barrel life, barrel length, shootability, cosmic balance

A sprinkling of Holy Water will address all 4 issues with a 5 minute visit with you local Catholic Priest.

LOL, last time I met with a catholic pries he tried to rape me and I had to threaten him to within an inch of his life... my Norwegian/Lutheran training won the day

But that's not fiction sadly... I was 16 years old.

MORE people DO just get the swede, that's why it's still around.

1 - SA vs LA is a moot point except for the fact that LA cartridges feed much nicer/smoothly

2 - The swede has less felt recoil with better performance than the other 6.5s

3 - There in a much greater cool factor associated with the 6.5 swede and all of its panache

You need to add "in my opinion". I disagree with all 3 of you assertions.

It's the old long action/ short action thing...blah blah blah.

I've always been kinda like "who cares"?

I notice the first thing the short action advocates always do is find a way to increase OAL with special boxes etc.... so they can load long bullets further out. Kinda like fitting size 10 feet in size 9 boots.

Well...if you want that, what was wrong with a long action in the first place?