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If it came to that, it would no longer be my party. Big no. --------------------- They shouldn't be anybodies party now -having this discussion should tell everybody that .
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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If the Republican party ignores the voters wishes and shoves establishment Rinos down our throat they can go to hell, fact is they can go to hell anyway. yea, but they're gonna drag us there, with them! Why would you bother to vote? They are mocking us. i said i wouldn't vote ked
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if a man speaks, and there isn't a woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?
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Awe hell no. I'm ready to crack open the ammo can now.
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Yes.
I would vote for anyone over Hillary, even Trump.
In a primary, I would vote for anyone other than Trump.
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The number you are looking is 1237.
NOT the one with the most. So, if one guy has 1229, and no one else breaks 600, who should get the nomination?
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As I read elsewhere today, as best I can recall, "The decision to not vote at all is not an act of rebellion, it is an act of submission."
I believe the Republican party has failed it's base, and at this point I could give a rip if the party does implode and tear itself to pieces. It might even be for the best in the long run.
However, I am of the opinion that this election is about the SCOTUS as much as anything else, and I have to believe that any justices nominated by the R side cannot help but be better than any justices nominated by the D side.
The next president (God help us all if it's Hillary) will in all liklihood get to nominate 2 to 3 justices to the SCOTUS. Any nominees by a Dem will shift the court to at least a 6-3 balance in favor of liberal-leaning decisions. Conservative issues will take a beating, including any decisions on the Second Amendment. This is why I will hold my nose and pull the lever for whatever candidate ends up on the Republican ticket.
With that said, even though I'm not a Trump fan in particular, I believe the "will of the people" should be respected. YMMV...
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Looks like the same people won't be voting again, again. Who'd a thunk? I just cannot fathom anyone staying home for this election. If Clinton gets the white house our rights will be washed down the drain.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
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With this ticket I would vote against the Democrat. Sadly it's been decades since I voted FOR a presidential candidate.
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As I read elsewhere today, as best I can recall, "The decision to not vote at all is not an act of rebellion, it is an act of submission."
I believe the Republican party has failed it's base, and at this point I could give a rip if the party does implode and tear itself to pieces. It might even be for the best in the long run.
However, I am of the opinion that this election is about the SCOTUS as much as anything else, and I have to believe that any justices nominated by the R side cannot help but be better than any justices nominated by the D side.
The next president (God help us all if it's Hillary) will in all liklihood get to appoint 2 to 3 justices to the SCOTUS. Any nominees by a Dem will shift the court to at least a 6-3 balance in favor of liberal-leaning decisions. Conservative issues will take a beating, including any decisions on the Second Amendment. This is why I will hold my nose and pull the lever for whatever candidate ends up on the Republican ticket.
With that said, even though I'm not a Trump fan in particular, I believe the "will of the people" should be respected. YMMV...
Chris Since when does the POUS "appoint" SC Justices??? Nominate maybe but definitely not appoint. Pray the Senate doesn't loose its balls!
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Yes.
I would vote for anyone over Hillary, even Trump.
In a primary, I would vote for anyone other than Trump. R u a publik skoolteecher?
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With this ticket I would vote against the Democrat. Sadly it's been decades since I voted FOR a presidential candidate. Had to read between the lines, but sadly, that's been the case for quite awhile. Hard to believe it really...
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Reluctantly, but yes.
Have said for months, I have my favorite, and I hope he wins, but if he doesn't, I will vote for whomever has an "R" next to his name.
The alternative is far worse than whomever is "R."
Case in point, six months ago when I and others brought up the hugely important issue of the SCOTUS, many of us felt secure that our baby, 2nd Amendment rights, was secure. After all, we have HELLER.
Jump to now. Justice Scalia, our fiercest ally on SCOTUS, is passed, and Obama nominated a very anti-2nd Amendment candidate.
If you don't like whomever has the "R" this time around, then please consider it a vote against Garland and Hillary Clinton. If the prospect of those two don't spur you to hold your nose and vote for the admitted lesser of two evils, then nothing can.
The stakes are huge. Just think about what Garland will do to HELLER in every challenge. I promise you he will find VERY few limitations on gun rights under HELLER to be unreasonable!
I am voting for the R.
I hope it's my candidate. But no matter what, i am voting for the R.
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As I read elsewhere today, as best I can recall, "The decision to not vote at all is not an act of rebellion, it is an act of submission."
I believe the Republican party has failed it's base, and at this point I could give a rip if the party does implode and tear itself to pieces. It might even be for the best in the long run.
However, I am of the opinion that this election is about the SCOTUS as much as anything else, and I have to believe that any justices nominated by the R side cannot help but be better than any justices nominated by the D side.
The next president (God help us all if it's Hillary) will in all liklihood get to appoint 2 to 3 justices to the SCOTUS. Any nominees by a Dem will shift the court to at least a 6-3 balance in favor of liberal-leaning decisions. Conservative issues will take a beating, including any decisions on the Second Amendment. This is why I will hold my nose and pull the lever for whatever candidate ends up on the Republican ticket.
With that said, even though I'm not a Trump fan in particular, I believe the "will of the people" should be respected. YMMV...
Chris Since when does the POUS "appoint" SC Justices??? Nominate maybe but definitely not appoint. Pray the Senate doesn't loose its balls! Okay, you got me, although you might have noticed the following sentence where I refer to nominees. It's a fair bet, though, that a Republican Congress won't be able to stonewall any Democratic president's nominees to the end of their term. Chris
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Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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If the RNC steals the nomination from Trump it means the end of the GOP and a Hillary Presidency.
The RNC knows that. At this point they're wondering if the survival of the GOP is worth allowing an outsider to become elected President. I don't think I can give them any credit for being smart. Arrogance has a tendency to over ride how smart someone is. They are the ones willing to let klin ton win. The only alternative is a 3rd party and let the R's deflate themselves. They will have become illegitimate at that point.
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Yes.
I would vote for anyone over Hillary, even Trump.
In a primary, I would vote for anyone other than Trump. R u a publik skoolteecher? No. Bit of an odd question??
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With this ticket I would vote against the Democrat. Sadly it's been decades since I voted FOR a presidential candidate. I agree!
The first time I shot myself in the head...
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No. If they do that they deserve to collapse, and hopefully we can pick up the pieces somehow. There would never be a recovery. We ran Goldwater in 1964 and got the Great Society; it's still with us. The Trump fiasco is similar in many respects. The big difference is that Goldwater was principled and intelligent, two characteristics not found in the present front-runner. Running Trump against Clinton, or hand-sitting like brats will burn down the house to kill some rats in the walls. +1
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