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I went to the pharmacy today to pick up some meds. The technician says hello Garry and then later asked my birthday. She said she remembered my name but not my birthday (jokingly). I gave it to her and then said, " Don't trouble yourself, cash is a perfectly acceptable gift."

She said, " Wouldn't like something nice?" to which I replied, "Yeah, but you'd have to go to a gun shop for that and I'm pretty picky."

That lead into her commenting of people with CHL's stepping up to defend others. I made this statement, "If someone is in peril of life by someone else, especially a woman, it is my duty as a Christian and as a man to defend that woman if I have the means. If I don't do that then that woman's blood is on me and I have sinned."

She seemed astounded that I would say that. That causes me to reflect on what we as men have become. In days past a woman would expect a man to come to her aid. Is that really lost?

Many Christians would not agree with that, too many in my opinion. Yet I reflect on James 4:17 Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin.

Simply to say that God puts in your heart personally what is right and wrong. To do wrong, even by failing to act, in contrast to what God put in your heart, is a sin.

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James 1:27 says: Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world. NKJV

I think the concept here is to help those who cannot help their selves. So I am with you. We help and protect the weak.


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The principle there seems to extend well beyond protection of a woman in peril. Maybe it always has been so, but I know of women who would consider it beneath them to accept such help/protection from a man - any man - even a Christian.


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The principle there seems to extend well beyond protection of a woman in peril. Maybe it always has been so, but I know of women who would consider it beneath them to accept such help/protection from a man - any man - even a Christian.
Met more than a few of those during a one-semester "sabbatical" at the University of Wisconsin back in the 1970s. Kind of a shock to a polite, southern boy! smile


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Catholic here ... totally, absolutely agree with you.

BUT, faith or no faith, that's just what a man is and it's what a man does.

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I was taught you always stuck up for Women,Children the Old And the weak.It had nothing to do with Religion.I would do it even if I was not armed.


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You don't need religion to tell you to defend the defenseless. That's just what decent men do.

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Catholic here ... totally, absolutely agree with you.

BUT, faith or no faith, that's just what a man is and it's what a man does.

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Well said friend Steve.


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A fundamental of Christianity is to help those in need. Age and gender is irreverent. This is a mission in which we bust our azzes but there is much more to do.

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I don't think this has as much to do with religion, as it does with basic human decency, although I understand what you are saying, and do not disagree with the concept. Read any older western story, and the common denominator then was people as a whole did not allow women and children to be abused in any way, that was simply a code to live by. Mankind has strayed a long way in a few years, but all of life, including his history, will often circle back.


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Originally Posted by WyoJoe
I think the concept here is to help those who cannot help their selves. So I am with you. We help and protect the weak.


Well, yes ... maybe.

My greatest and highest responsibility is to my wife if I have one and kids if I have them.

Where does the risk I place them in, risk of losing their father / husband / provider by losing either my life or my freedom to prison, or risk losing the roof I put over their heads to a jury award by standing up for someone else besides them?

You may be right but I think it is irresponsible not to think of my ability to meet my existing obligations before taking on a new one. Does this come into your thinking as well? Your wife might want to know where she fits in your priorities, whether you even think of her at all before acting precipitously for others.

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my wife would be pi$$ed if I didn't step up to defend someone in need...


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Originally Posted by toad
my wife would be pi$$ed if I didn't step up to defend someone in need...


Mine too! Life is not so precious that I could live being a coward. Fact is, every day I go to work there is that risk I might not come home. I have left work on my back several times.


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Originally Posted by WyoJoe
I think the concept here is to help those who cannot help their selves. So I am with you. We help and protect the weak.


Well, yes ... maybe.

My greatest and highest responsibility is to my wife if I have one and kids if I have them.

Where does the risk I place them in, risk of losing their father / husband / provider by losing either my life or my freedom to prison, or risk losing the roof I put over their heads to a jury award by standing up for someone else besides them?

You may be right but I think it is irresponsible not to think of my ability to meet my existing obligations before taking on a new one. Does this come into your thinking as well? Your wife might want to know where she fits in your priorities, whether you even think of her at all before acting precipitously for others.

Tom


Back to the Christian concept, You serve God, not man, and He will provide for His faithful. God is in control of all in this world. That's a tuff and some times hard TRUTH to remember.


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Originally Posted by Armednfree
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my wife would be pi$$ed if I didn't step up to defend someone in need...


Mine too! Life is not so precious that I could live being a coward. Fact is, every day I go to work there is that risk I might not come home. I have left work on my back several times.



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Originally Posted by wyowinchester
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by WyoJoe
I think the concept here is to help those who cannot help their selves. So I am with you. We help and protect the weak.


Well, yes ... maybe.

My greatest and highest responsibility is to my wife if I have one and kids if I have them.

Where does the risk I place them in, risk of losing their father / husband / provider by losing either my life or my freedom to prison, or risk losing the roof I put over their heads to a jury award by standing up for someone else besides them?

You may be right but I think it is irresponsible not to think of my ability to meet my existing obligations before taking on a new one. Does this come into your thinking as well? Your wife might want to know where she fits in your priorities, whether you even think of her at all before acting precipitously for others.

Tom


Back to the Christian concept, You serve God, not man, and He will provide for His faithful. God is in control of all in this world. That's a tuff and some times hard TRUTH to remember.


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