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If they get rid of the tube vision as was suggested earlier, straighten the reticle canting issue, reduce optical distortions and ensure accurate and repeatable tracking while keeping the long eye relief then they will be quite competitive to the high-end euro stuff and will be hard to beat even at that price. If they added a rainguard type coating so much the better.

I must be in the 10% that can see a difference because there NO comparison between the vari-x III and the zeiss varipoint that I have except contrast. The leupold slightly beats the zeiss in contrast in the daytime. The zeiss beats it in every other respect. And I'm not bragging either as the zeiss was actually a little cheaper when I bought it than some of the new vx7 prices, its just the truth. I have a friend who is a good deal older than me and would NEVER spend more than $300 on a scope. He looked through the zeiss and immediately said it was the best scope he had ever looked through. He still would never buy one of course, but he would never justify it by putting down people who do buy them as just trying to show off, and I would never put him down for not getting one, to each his own.

-polarcow

paid $600 for my Zeiss 4.5-14x50 and my leupld 4.5-14x40 with B$C reticle doesnt hold a candle to it an di paid $500 for the leupold!

hrmmm ... where'd you get that Zeiss ? .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Love Leupy's contrast better than almost any scope I have. Also like the glass in the LPS, on par with any euro I have, but vx3 is not, period. And Leupys FOV totally sucks, doesn't make a sh`~ how good the glass is if its like looking through a straw. For low light it will still suck. Really hope they increased this(fov) and I am sure I will try one. Still looks a revamped LPS.

Looks like Lupie is working there harts out trying to play catch up with S&B.Fast eye focus, real optical coatings,man,What will they think of next?Next thing ya know they want as much as a euro scope for one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />.I always knew Lupie had it in them.It only took um 25 years.
dave <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Like Rick has said, the jury still out. The revolutionary Index Matched Lens coating didn't put them to far out in front of the previous VariXIII's far as I'm concerned. Then we had Argoil/Kriptonite gas, diamond dust and objective birth defects, yawn. Now after a whole year, everything is generation 2 with Xtended Twilight mixins. I really hope they will put my money where their mouth is. Time will tell, I hope.

RD,
"objective birth defects"Your killen me.
You just gotta love the names there ad agency dreams up for chit.
Diamond coat,hard as real diamonds.Like no one ever had MC hard glass coatings before they came along.
Matched index glass.Whats that mean anyway?They finally buying there glass from the same supplier?
Made right made here.Well except for the glass of course.
And now, Xtended Twilight Lens.Wow.Now we can use Lupies to hunt at night with.Im impressed.Just wait untill E get ahold of that one.They be no stoppen him now.All the other scope companies can fold um up and header home.
Actually its a good thing.You can only live on a name for so long and lupie sucked just about everything out of a name that could be sucked.Its about freaking time they stepped up.
And this looks like a step in the right direction.
I say good for them.
dave <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

One thing is for sure. If these scopes aren't the absolute be all end all greatest scopes of all time, the euro eletists will be whining, complaining, and running down Leupold even more.....

dave
"Matched index glass.Whats that mean anyway?"

The refractive index in a transparent material refers to how it refracts (bends) light. Not all glass is the same. Matching the refractive index of the various glasses used reduces distortion.

The question is still how close will they match them...
art

I just hope they get it all right this time. Leupold will excel in one area on a new scope and go backwards in another. THey have done it on every Vari whatever and LPS they have come out with. They can't seem to get it all right in one scope....not even close. They have always had a fair product at a fair price and have catered to the masses by selling in mass quantities with fabulous customer service. That has always been their niche. It is nice to see them venture out a bit and perhaps offer something on par with the Euros. I just hope they don't pull a boner like they did with their binos. What a pile of crap they are, especially for the money!!!! I don't know who designed and engineered them, but they have never used binos before and certainly never used them with gloves on. They give me a headache to look through after only a few minutes, yet cost a ton of money. Come on Leupold, impress us for once....PLEASE! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Flinch

I hope they are wonderful, but I guess I'll just wait and see.
That said, I'll be curious to see if they will help me kill anything deader than what I already use.
t

Seems like everyones bashing before the scope are even out. Tough crowd!

Not everyone.

Some folks are buying them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Rick

I don't think it's so much that people are "bashing" the new Leupold VX-7 ... I think it's much more legitimate than that ... I too wonder how Leupold has put well over $500 worth of improvements into what seems to have been their LPS line of scopes ... which as an aside, most people (from what I've heard) seem to feel that the price of the current LPS line is not worth the difference in price/benefit over the VX-III line ...

Last year (and still now, for that matter) I can get a NIB Leupold LPS 2.5-10x45 for $900 w/out even trying hard ... Now, the VX-7 equivolent of that scope costs $1,400 ... That's a LOT of improvements if you ask me, if you want to say that the hike in price is justified ...

things get a little crazier too, when you think that these scopes are near $1000 more expensive than the VX-III's that everyone knows and loves right now ...

All that being said, I'm patiently witholding judgement until I see/use one for myself ...



EDIT: I don't know how I accidentally replied to J_Scott ... meant to reply to BWalker ... not that it matters much ...

I would have been happy if they had simply upgraded the glass in the VX-III to equal that used by Zeiss in their Conquest. Also, an etched reticle similar to the ZPlex would be nice.

Folks like <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> "E" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> who wear Loopy underwear will be first in line to buy them. Loopy will laugh all the way to the bank! When they make one as good as my USO (new scope configuration Scope Pic ) or PMII from S&B then I will consider one until then they are Coke Bottles. Now on my truck gun I carry around in the truck on the ranch I put a Loopy VXIII on the SG&Y modified Ruger compact short barrel (please don�t tell anyone I have it) and it does the trick but then .75 MOA is all I need from this rifle.

I very seriously doubt the Loopy will be in the same company as the aforementioned or the VMV line for that matter�the much touted LPS line pretty much died on the vine so to speak so the marketing toads better do better this time. The SHOT will be interesting this year to say the least.

Has anyone actually looked through one of these scopes yet before passing judgement?

Based on my experience with the first Leupold binoculars (the IF 9X35) and some really decent Burris 7X35 porros several years ago, I never would have paid close to $1000 for ANY binocular. I mean, I can see what I'm looking at so how much better can any other binocular be?

Then I actually looked through a Leica 8X40...and plunked my money down as fast as I could.

Optics can be so subjective. Some will look through the new Leupies and say "so what?" while others may look and say "wowee!". But until you actually see one this is all just prejudicial speculation.

FWIW:

Looks to me like they learned a lesson from the LPS line and took the entier step up to top of the line Euro glass.

Only time will tell if it is a good product.

I am gonna buy glass next year, and it will be a 6x42.

No need for stuff that works after dark.

BMT

Rick, I am a huge fan of Leupold scopes. I think they are among the best scopes on the market. I will not however, pay over about $500 at max. for a scope. I certainly won't pay more for the scope than I do for the rifle, regardless of the incremental quality above the VX II's and VX III's. As it is now, I am keeping my eyes peeled for used VX III's that have been loved but used.

Gee you only get .75 MOA from your truck gun? What happened, did you run over it first?......or is that when your dog shoots it??


You need to get over yourself.