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People who think that a GOP candidate can win with a platform of Constitutionalism and social values are *way* out of touch with where this country is.
Cruz will get steamrolled in the general election.
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everyone with common sense knows this, but they are still living a dream and won't admit it
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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People who think that a GOP candidate can win with a platform of Constitutionalism and social values are *way* out of touch with where this country is.
Cruz will get steamrolled in the general election. We are so done. Again.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Most people seem to look at the viability of their preferred candidate from the demographic that they belong to.
Cruz gets a lot of support on here because older white traditional males are the demographic that's attracted to traditional, social issue, GOP candidates.
But that's not the country.
It's a fairly strange situation in the GOP primary this cycle.
Cruz is the younger candidate, but he's running on an outdated platform, while Trump, who is much older is promoting a more modern interpretation of Republicanism and is appealing to the younger Conservative voters.
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for me it is not about defeating Hillary at any cost.
but I won't vote for Trump either if by some quirk of fate he winds up the Nominee.
Huh??
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I don't think that Cruz is all that popular here, certainly not as popular as some people assume. Many people, myself included, see Cruz as more viable in the general. As far as I'm concerned, I would prefer anyone but either Cruz or Trump, as long as we could beat the Beast, or Mr. Unprotected Sex - "Feel the Bern ".
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Let's make this simple call it a 24 Hour Campfire pack
We all campaign for our chosen Rep candidate but come July whoever the Republican nominee is we vote for them,really as simple as that...you in Bristoe?
I'll start
I pledge to vote Republican come November regardless of who the nominee is
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Let's make this simple call it a 24 Hour Campfire pack
We all campaign for our chosen Rep candidate but come July whoever the Republican nominee is we vote for them,really as simple as that...you in Bristoe?
I'm done with cuckservatives. If Trump's not the GOP nominee, I'll probably vote for John McAfee. But it goes beyond the candidate issue for me. The GOPe has devoted itself to shutting out the will of the people when the people start to lean towards a non establishment candidate. That's gone on too long already and it needs to end yesterday. Voting for a GOP candidate who got the nomination via RNC skullduggery just serves to encourage more of that same behavior. I won't be a part of that. Conservative people need a political outlet that answers to *them*. The GOP doesn't. It's usefulness is over. I won't do anything to keep it around. It needs to go.
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doesn't change 7 0f 10 come November Why is he the front runner, then, in actual votes and delegates, if this is anything close to true?
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I'm done with cuckservatives. If Trump's not the GOP nominee, I'll probably vote for John McAfee.
But it goes beyond the candidate issue for me.
The GOPe has devoted itself to shutting out the will of the people when the people start to lean towards a non establishment candidate.
That's gone on too long already and it needs to end yesterday.
Voting for a GOP candidate who got the nomination via RNC skullduggery just serves to encourage more of that same behavior.
I won't be a part of that.
Conservative people need a political outlet that answers to *them*.
The GOP doesn't.
It's usefulness is over.
I won't do anything to keep it around. It needs to go. Once a Ron Paul fan, always a fan of throwing elections to the Dems. And it's the GOP establishment's fault! Chuckling when I'm not crying.
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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It's sad that some will cut of their nose to spite their face...really sadder that they cut of other good folks in the process
My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan"
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I will never vote for a Democrat and will vote for the person running against any Democrat, ever if it is a Sanders/Cruz Ticket
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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He's got the most votes and the most delegates, but he hasn't gotten the majority (over 50%) of either. What he's got is the largest minority. FWIW, I don't like Cruz either and, short of Hilary being indicted, he's just as unelectable in November as Cruz is. The difference is that with Trump there's a real chance of long the Congress as well. (Think about what that could mean for the RKBA.) doesn't change 7 0f 10 come November Why is he the front runner, then, in actual votes and delegates, if this is anything close to true?
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He's got the most votes and the most delegates, but he hasn't gotten the majority (over 50%) of either. What he's got is the largest minority. FWIW, I don't like Cruz either and, short of Hilary being indicted, he's just as unelectable in November as Cruz is. The difference is that with Trump there's a real chance of long the Congress as well. (Think about what that could mean for the RKBA.) doesn't change 7 0f 10 come November Why is he the front runner, then, in actual votes and delegates, if this is anything close to true? That still doesn't support the 7 in 10 claim.
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doesn't change 7 0f 10 come November Why is he the front runner, then, in actual votes and delegates, if this is anything close to true? Because for most of the primary, the half dozen anybody-but-Trump candidates split all the votes. If it had been Trump one-on-one against Cruz for the last 3 months, he'd probably be losing right now.
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Not sure, but the 7 out of 10 claim may come from a national poll done a couple of weeks ago. At 70%, Trump has the highest unfavorable rating of any candidate since they started doing the poll over 30-some years ago.
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doesn't change 7 0f 10 come November Why is he the front runner, then, in actual votes and delegates, if this is anything close to true? Because for most of the primary, the half dozen anybody-but-Trump candidates split all the votes. If it had been Trump one-on-one against Cruz for the last 3 months, he'd probably be losing right now. How do you know that everyone else wasn't splitting the anybody but Cruz votes?
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