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Sure!
Point being when you have to siphon through such closely matched shidt, there ain't THAT much difference.
Some? Sure.
But earthshaking? Nope.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Where's that leave the 280AI? Don't know and don't care. I shoot 7mm's with belts cause like to push 7mm bullets fast. Checkmate
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A 160 .277 is not exactly the same as a 160 7mm. The 7mm has more base area for the gas to push on (Waters and JOC had that conversation 50 years ago A better comparison is the 150-.277 vs the 160-7mm Yes, you got it right! ! Now DANG it!! Bob, I was staying out of this "conversation" on purpose. This is such an OLD story I don't understand why many don't get it by now. Maybe cause some aren't as OLD as WE are? Jerry Backin out...tryin to anyway.
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The REAL question is: "which is better, the 9mm or 45acp?" Or "Glock vs Colt: THE FINAL ANSWER!"
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All these numbers is confusing and pretty much unnecessary. Keep it simple. The .270 is for women and frail men. The .280 is for manly men. That's what I read, anyway, back in the day when Jack O'Carmichael was expounding on the merits of said such .280 in Outdoor Fields.
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I'd rather 7x57 or a .270.
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All these numbers is confusing and pretty much unnecessary. Keep it simple. The .270 is for women and frail men. The .280 is for manly men.That's what I read, anyway, back in the day when Jack O'Carmichael was expounding on the merits of said such .280 in Outdoor Fields. My wife is having a .280 built for herself.
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Hmm . . . you like the 270 The .280 is for manly men. "My wife is having a .280 built for herself." You're not keeping any secrets from us are you elk?
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The 30-06 is a great caliber. The 270 is a great caliber. So why would the 280 be any worse or any better than those two?
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Availability of ammo and brass?
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Availability of ammo and brass? FWIW-- I think you are SPOT ON !! Jerry
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The 30-06 is a great caliber. The 270 is a great caliber. So why would the 280 be any worse or any better than those two? It is a great caliber. Like John implied, not as popular;but fully capable yet not magical.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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It is a great caliber. Like John implied, not as popular;but fully capable yet not magical.
The 280 is magical. It helped bag me! The young lady I was dating bought me a 280 Mountain Rifle when we were dating. I claim it pushed me over the edge and I married her 28 years later and no complaints so it isn't all bad
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It is a great caliber. Like John implied, not as popular;but fully capable yet not magical.
The 280 is magical. It helped bag me! The young lady I was dating bought me a 280 Mountain Rifle when we were dating. I claim it pushed me over the edge and I married her 28 years later and no complaints so it isn't all bad Just think how differently your life could have turned out if you had taken a job tending sheep w/ a buddy that loved 270's.... David
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Just think how differently your life could have turned out if you had taken a job tending sheep w/ a buddy that loved 270's.... David
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Hmm . . . you like the 270 The .280 is for manly men. "My wife is having a .280 built for herself." Y ou're not keeping any secrets from us are you elk?
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It is a great caliber. Like John implied, not as popular;but fully capable yet not magical.
The 280 is magical. It helped bag me! The young lady I was dating bought me a 280 Mountain Rifle when we were dating. I claim it pushed me over the edge and I married her 28 years later and no complaints so it isn't all bad Just think how differently your life could have turned out if you had taken a job tending sheep w/ a buddy that loved 270's.... .284 .284 .284 .284 David
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Is that some kinda hint..or..somethin ? Jerry
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The 30-06 is a great caliber. The 270 is a great caliber. So why would the 280 be any worse or any better than those two? Its like anything else, give and take between the 3 and it just depends on what you wanna give and what you wanna take. Nobody kicks their own dog and either is going to convince the other even when numbers prove otherwise. And none of it matters anyway. Odds are this discussion will fire up again in another thread, closer to fall.
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