Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire One reason why people aren't concerned with Global Warming? They like it

There are a number of places in Alaska, not usual fault areas either, where there are old beach lines high in the tundra. In light of the most recent "sky is falling" type stuff, I wonder what people thought back then after they considered which spirits they had offended? My guess, based on the fact that there are remnants of old campfires and burned critter bones, is that they moved over a bit and continued making their lives.

I also don't buy the "we can fix this" line of thinking either because it relies on a "we did this" rational. While there is no question that humans, caribou, and whales all affect the environment, there is no reason to believe that it throws things off balance. At least, not until there is an over-population of a species. And there is only one cure for over-population, a cure that nature provides.

It's pretty obvious that humans will one day overpopulate the earth unless that cure arises. In the mean time, I don't think we should stop living, nor do I think it is our place to "play God" and assume we can or should correct something which is quite probably well beyond our control. But we should be prepared to adapt.

But it's easier to sell the idea of fixing the problem because that assumes we can continue going in the same direction with the same technology, the same plastic houses, the same free time, etc. It's a lot harder to sell the idea of adapting because that implies a need to return to more basic times, less technology, retaining older methods and ways of doing things. Does anyone believe Gen X can survive that?

Don't worry, soon I"m heading further north than you are.

For those that can't deal with 90, hasn't been a month every that hasn't seen 90 numerous times. Sucks to be 90 on Christmas day. Probably sucks to be -40 on Christmas day though too...

I wish I could... those days are long past. I try not to go to the coast if its too hot for a hooded sweatshirt...thats my favorite temp down there.

Read an article a while back on Global warming[not climate change].
It said that by 2050 the 1 degree uptick in temps would create starvation in an additional 37k inhabitants. The very same article stated that longer growing seasons in the northern and southern climes would allow for more food production from those areas?????

Well, for starters I grew up in Houston, did you? Yep 51 years isn't history, but I damn sure know that it doesn't flood any more or less overall than it ever did down there....

Wonder where all the water went that created seashells on our property, and we are way further in that Houston from the salt.... about 125 miles at the closest point.

Thinking out loud here... humans can create issues, no doubt. But to blame us for normal weather pattern changes is nuts.

To imply that we as a species have no impact on our surrounding is well.....you fill in the blank. As a person living in the north where we see the effects of climatic change and running a business that relies upon said climate I can safely say we are doing well but due to a serious shift in the Western Arctic Caribou Herd-WACH we are seeing a serious impact to both the herd and the ability to do business as well. Our 2016 season was booked solid back in November of 2015 and we are 50% booked for 2017 as well. I am glad you are interested in how we are doing, I respect your interest! Summer fishing and rafting is kicking but as well.

I know that you are not much of an outdoorsman and rarely get your fingers off of your "Keyboard" If you ever want to learn how to hunt or fish look us up!

Anyone who tries to anticipate what caribou will do from year to year is, "well ............ you fill in the blank."

You should have heard the way those teens and young 20s proclaimed the sky was falling when they all of a sudden showed up for 6 years....and then they quit coming around.

Ya know, the fact I quit watching news, for the most part, 2 or so years ago makes more sense every day.

There just isn't much out there that makes any common sense.

While I could do without TV, there are still a few things on that I like to watch now and then. Not many, but a few.

Clues, they are out there, but not everyone looks for them or can read them.

Yup...The Village of Noatak is seeing the most radical shift. for years the bou walked into town and died right on the meat racks but today the herd has moved 150 miles to the east and Noatak no longer harvests those critters.

Why have they shifted is anyones guess but as we see ice lenses collapse, thermalkarst release huge amounts methane and increased icing events one has to ask hummmmmm wonder what is going on???

You fill in the blank!

We live in a time of "data by suggestion" which doesn't help matters either. Then to add to the problem, we have "science by democracy" -(as long as a large number believe it, it's true). This makes real science difficult to ascertain, and the consequent decisions even more so.

Are things changing? Of course they are. Is there is a huge or even significant trend one way or another? That's hard to say given a distinct lack of baseline data to compare to and the din of data and results coming through very questionably "objective" filters.

Caribou have been shifting their grounds ever since people started observing where they hang out and travel. Many years ago (back when I was a wildlife biology major) the shifts were attributed, based on some evidence, to over-browsing as herd populations rose. Then the herd would move or crash, and shifts would occur again.

Personally, I kind of like the idea of global warming, from what I've seen of it so far, regardless of the reason behind it. Warming means I won't have to retire to a crowded state like Arizona, because Montana will be warm enough for a geezer even in January.

I think its the cold the keeps people away from Montana. Warm it up there and the crowds will come.

Yes,

Shoveling snow sucks.

Mother Nature is going to do what Mother Nature wants to do.

Unfortunately man's ego is so great we believe in things like being able to stop Mother Nature from doing what she wishes and rewards after death.


There ain't nothing man can do to the earth that Mother Nature can't 'fix'. Sure we won't like the answer, but she'll 'fix' it nonetheless.

Economist studying the issue have determined that each year there are more death attributed to cold weather then warm weather. Global warming could actually save lives and increase the amount of arable land.

The informed people are not concerned because it's not happening.

Drilling a new well and switching from Center Pivot irrigation to dry land farming sucks more!

Choosing the Sarah Palin method of looking at anything involving big words or numbers is a real problem as well. Choosing to be ignorant is a personal choice but the rest of us are not compelled to be forced to make the same stupid choices!

Go Bill Nye!

Anyone who is blind to their own inherent ignorance cannot be helped much. Certainly, polling the masses for your insight deficits doesn't bridge the problem. Science demands constant questioning, not blind adherence.