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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/ted-cruz-donald-trump-delegates-222475here is a story from a somewhat lib site, the story is pretty subjective. I am going to say it here and now if trump does not secure the nomination on the first ballot he WILL NOT be the nominee. those of you saying this is done. your wrong. with a second ballot as much as half of trump's delegates are GONE, you need to understand the process trumpeters. If no candidate gets to 1237. a second ballot is had. according to the rules only cruz or trump can be nominated. Kasich is deranged. Many not all delegates become unbound. in plain english trumpeters, that means they can vote however they want. That means all the kasich delgates, rubio delgates and Cruz supporters who were trump delegates, now vote as they wish. Cruz has installed many of his supporters as trump delegates. Its really too late for trump to do anything about that. saying the election is over defies simple math. If cruz wins indiana. Cruz will win nebraska, montana, south dakota, washington, leaving california to determine the outcome. Those are the states that matter.
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Some just can't get over the number 1237.
Simple to understand.
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It certainly isn't over, but if it goes down that way cheer all you want but Cruz will lose the general election in a landslide.
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Cruz will not carry a single swing state, if nominated. Not even Florida. That's facts....
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Yeah why should someone with millions more votes win? That wouldn't be fair to nominate the winner.
Don't worry Trump will get enough delegates.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/ted-cruz-donald-trump-delegates-222475here is a story from a somewhat lib site, the story is pretty subjective. I am going to say it here and now if trump does not secure the nomination on the first ballot he WILL NOT be the nominee. those of you saying this is done. your wrong. with a second ballot as much as half of trump's delegates are GONE, you need to understand the process trumpeters. If no candidate gets to 1237. a second ballot is had. according to the rules only cruz or trump can be nominated. Kasich is deranged. Many not all delegates become unbound. in plain english trumpeters, that means they can vote however they want. That means all the kasich delgates, rubio delgates and Cruz supporters who were trump delegates, now vote as they wish. Cruz has installed many of his supporters as trump delegates. Its really too late for trump to do anything about that. saying the election is over defies simple math. If cruz wins indiana. Cruz will win nebraska, montana, south dakota, washington, leaving california to determine the outcome. Those are the states that matter. Right off the bat you are WRONG. Tells us why only Cruz or Trump can be nominated "According to the rules". Please supply a list of the 2016 convention rules. OH, and before you waste your time and ours looking. These Rules have not even been written yet, let alone ratified by the 2016 delegates. Remove head from ass. Until the 2016 delegates and the 2016 rules committee set the rules and ratify the rules, there are no rules.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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As much as I wish Cruz were the nominee, it won't happen. No way the delegates trade Trump for Cruz. I never cared for Trump, but the majority of voters do. At this point, I hope he locks up this nomination so we can all just move forward and stop all this back and forth crap.
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Apparently, a majority of delegates have to approve the rules. Doubtful that Trump's or Cruz's would vote for a rule that allowed an outsider.
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And if that happens, Hitlery or Sanders will be elected president and the liberals will select the next 1-3SC Justices.
Paul
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/ted-cruz-donald-trump-delegates-222475here is a story from a somewhat lib site, the story is pretty subjective. I am going to say it here and now if trump does not secure the nomination on the first ballot he WILL NOT be the nominee. those of you saying this is done. your wrong. with a second ballot as much as half of trump's delegates are GONE, you need to understand the process trumpeters. If no candidate gets to 1237. a second ballot is had. according to the rules only cruz or trump can be nominated. Kasich is deranged. Many not all delegates become unbound. in plain english trumpeters, that means they can vote however they want. That means all the kasich delgates, rubio delgates and Cruz supporters who were trump delegates, now vote as they wish. Cruz has installed many of his supporters as trump delegates. Its really too late for trump to do anything about that. saying the election is over defies simple math. If cruz wins indiana. Cruz will win nebraska, montana, south dakota, washington, leaving california to determine the outcome. Those are the states that matter. Right off the bat you are WRONG. Tells us why only Cruz or Trump can be nominated "According to the rules". Please supply a list of the 2016 convention rules. OH, and before you waste your time and ours looking. These Rules have not even been written yet, let alone ratified by the 2016 delegates. Remove head from ass. Until the 2016 delegates and the 2016 rules committee set the rules and ratify the rules, there are no rules. dude the chairman of the party said no rules changes. besides why would trump and cruz delegates support a rule change?!?!?!? The delegates there simply aren't going to support a rule change anyways. you remove from your ass. and use your head. The rules aren't changing unless for some reason there is no nominee past the 5 or 6th ballot. That is kasich's only hand. If trump is short on delegates his only hope is to persuade unbound delgates for a first ballot majority. a second ballot means trump will not win!! trump will not win a second ballot.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/ted-cruz-donald-trump-delegates-222475here is a story from a somewhat lib site, the story is pretty subjective. I am going to say it here and now if trump does not secure the nomination on the first ballot he WILL NOT be the nominee. those of you saying this is done. your wrong. with a second ballot as much as half of trump's delegates are GONE, you need to understand the process trumpeters. If no candidate gets to 1237. a second ballot is had. according to the rules only cruz or trump can be nominated. Kasich is deranged. Many not all delegates become unbound. in plain english trumpeters, that means they can vote however they want. That means all the kasich delgates, rubio delgates and Cruz supporters who were trump delegates, now vote as they wish. Cruz has installed many of his supporters as trump delegates. Its really too late for trump to do anything about that. saying the election is over defies simple math. If cruz wins indiana. Cruz will win nebraska, montana, south dakota, washington, leaving california to determine the outcome. Those are the states that matter. Right off the bat you are WRONG. Tells us why only Cruz or Trump can be nominated "According to the rules". Please supply a list of the 2016 convention rules. OH, and before you waste your time and ours looking. These Rules have not even been written yet, let alone ratified by the 2016 delegates. Remove head from ass. Until the 2016 delegates and the 2016 rules committee set the rules and ratify the rules, there are no rules. dude the chairman of the party said no rules changes. besides why would trump and cruz delegates support a rule change?!?!?!? The delegates there simply aren't going to support a rule change anyways. you remove from your ass. and use your head. The rules aren't changing unless for some reason there is no nominee past the 5 or 6th ballot. That is kasich's only hand. If trump is short on delegates his only hope is to persuade unbound delgates for a first ballot majority. a second ballot means trump will not win!! trump will not win a second ballot. Doesn't matter what the Chairman says or claims, he does NOT make the rules nor is he even allowed to vote on these rules. Get head out of ass. Why indeed, but that doesn't change the fact that you are WRONG in that "only Cruz or Trump can win according to the rules". At this point there are NO rules. Got it, get it, good.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Our luck, Trump won't get to 1237, Cruz wins nom on 2+ vote, Hillary is indicted, Sanders wins in a squeaker, and the establishment celebrates...
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Well you better hope it's Trump because if it's Cruz you lose to Hillary.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/ted-cruz-donald-trump-delegates-222475here is a story from a somewhat lib site, the story is pretty subjective. I am going to say it here and now if trump does not secure the nomination on the first ballot he WILL NOT be the nominee. those of you saying this is done. your wrong. with a second ballot as much as half of trump's delegates are GONE, you need to understand the process trumpeters. If no candidate gets to 1237. a second ballot is had. according to the rules only cruz or trump can be nominated. Kasich is deranged. Many not all delegates become unbound. in plain english trumpeters, that means they can vote however they want. That means all the kasich delgates, rubio delgates and Cruz supporters who were trump delegates, now vote as they wish. Cruz has installed many of his supporters as trump delegates. Its really too late for trump to do anything about that. saying the election is over defies simple math. If cruz wins indiana. Cruz will win nebraska, montana, south dakota, washington, leaving california to determine the outcome. Those are the states that matter. Right off the bat you are WRONG. Tells us why only Cruz or Trump can be nominated "According to the rules". Please supply a list of the 2016 convention rules. OH, and before you waste your time and ours looking. These Rules have not even been written yet, let alone ratified by the 2016 delegates. Remove head from ass. Until the 2016 delegates and the 2016 rules committee set the rules and ratify the rules, there are no rules. dude the chairman of the party said no rules changes. besides why would trump and cruz delegates support a rule change?!?!?!? The delegates there simply aren't going to support a rule change anyways. you remove from your ass. and use your head. The rules aren't changing unless for some reason there is no nominee past the 5 or 6th ballot. That is kasich's only hand. If trump is short on delegates his only hope is to persuade unbound delgates for a first ballot majority. a second ballot means trump will not win!! trump will not win a second ballot. Doesn't matter what the Chairman says or claims, he does NOT make the rules nor is he even allowed to vote on these rules. Get head out of ass. Why indeed, but that doesn't change the fact that you are WRONG in that "only Cruz or Trump can win according to the rules". At this point there are NO rules. Got it, get it, good. you pull your head out of your ass, why in the world if your a trump or cruz delegate are you going to vote to change the rules? THESE ARE THE DELEGATES THAT WILL BE VOTING ON RULES CHANGES. LONG standing ones at that. the 8 state threshold which was 5 states before is not going to change. PREIBUS said the rules aren't changing because they are not, he understand the convention will be dominated by trump and cruz delegates. I assume your a trump supporter, so are you suggesting a rules change helps trump?!?! a rules change leaves trump with even less of a chance.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/ted-cruz-donald-trump-delegates-222475here is a story from a somewhat lib site, the story is pretty subjective. I am going to say it here and now if trump does not secure the nomination on the first ballot he WILL NOT be the nominee. those of you saying this is done. your wrong. with a second ballot as much as half of trump's delegates are GONE, you need to understand the process trumpeters. If no candidate gets to 1237. a second ballot is had. according to the rules only cruz or trump can be nominated. Kasich is deranged. Many not all delegates become unbound. in plain english trumpeters, that means they can vote however they want. That means all the kasich delgates, rubio delgates and Cruz supporters who were trump delegates, now vote as they wish. Cruz has installed many of his supporters as trump delegates. Its really too late for trump to do anything about that. saying the election is over defies simple math. If cruz wins indiana. Cruz will win nebraska, montana, south dakota, washington, leaving california to determine the outcome. Those are the states that matter. Right off the bat you are WRONG. Tells us why only Cruz or Trump can be nominated "According to the rules". Please supply a list of the 2016 convention rules. OH, and before you waste your time and ours looking. These Rules have not even been written yet, let alone ratified by the 2016 delegates. Remove head from ass. Until the 2016 delegates and the 2016 rules committee set the rules and ratify the rules, there are no rules. dude the chairman of the party said no rules changes. besides why would trump and cruz delegates support a rule change?!?!?!? The delegates there simply aren't going to support a rule change anyways. you remove from your ass. and use your head. The rules aren't changing unless for some reason there is no nominee past the 5 or 6th ballot. That is kasich's only hand. If trump is short on delegates his only hope is to persuade unbound delgates for a first ballot majority. a second ballot means trump will not win!! trump will not win a second ballot. Doesn't matter what the Chairman says or claims, he does NOT make the rules nor is he even allowed to vote on these rules. Get head out of ass. Why indeed, but that doesn't change the fact that you are WRONG in that "only Cruz or Trump can win according to the rules". At this point there are NO rules. Got it, get it, good. you pull your head out of your ass, why in the world if your a trump or cruz delegate are you going to vote to change the rules? THESE ARE THE DELEGATES THAT WILL BE VOTING ON RULES CHANGES. LONG standing ones at that. the 8 state threshold which was 5 states before is not going to change. PREIBUS said the rules aren't changing because they are not, he understand the convention will be dominated by trump and cruz delegates. I assume your a trump supporter, so are you suggesting a rules change helps trump?!?! a rules change leaves trump with even less of a chance. Finally you get it!!! Rules changes, rules Changes, Rules changes. At this point there are NO rules, so you are wrong with your original comment and finally you admit it. What those chages are or even if there are any changes is yet to be determiined, so I will say it again, You Are wrong.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Preibus is a low life liar, he also said the establishment would treat Trump fairly instead they organize to try to defeat him.
Fuqking liars, everyone of them.
Paul
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no I am not, we shall see though, you just made my point without knowing it by saying IF there are rules changes. could there be? of course there could. I however say there will not be, so I guess more accurately thats a prediction based on reason, and info from the comments of well connected people.
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If not Trump the GOP would be destroyed, Hillary would get elected, and the country would blow wide open.
The RNC are knotheads, but even *they* have reached the point of understanding the situation.
Trump will win on the first ballot.
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Well you better hope it's Trump because if it's Cruz you lose to Hillary.
I'm so tired of hearing that! Cruz supporters say Trump will lose to Hillary. Trump supporters say Cruz will lose to Hillary. Let's just put up a nominee and let the chips fall where they may.
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Well you better hope it's Trump because if it's Cruz you lose to Hillary.
I'm so tired of hearing that! Cruz supporters say Trump will lose to Hillary. Trump supporters say Cruz will lose to Hillary. Let's just put up a nominee and let the chips fall where they may. KHS: Cruz's results last night should be all you need to know...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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