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At some point you've gotta decide that you have "enough".
To say that I'm safe with a 1911 carrying 8+1, but that I'm crazy for just carrying to mag capacity of 15 just doesn't make sense. I hear what your saying I guess my philosophy is that I've always carried full capacity no matter what I was csrrying, probably more of how we were trained
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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Never. Just chamber the first round and go from there. It's a pain in the arse to try to keep track of a single round.
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How is it that a feller needs to keep track of that extra round often enough that it's a pain in the rear? Are you unloading and loading daily?
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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How is it that a feller needs to keep track of that extra round often enough that it's a pain in the rear? Are you unloading and loading daily? Yes. Chambered when I carry, condition 3 at home.
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How is it that a feller needs to keep track of that extra round often enough that it's a pain in the rear? Are you unloading and loading daily? Yes. Chambered when I carry, condition 3 at home. Too much manipulation for my taste.
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How is it that a feller needs to keep track of that extra round often enough that it's a pain in the rear? Are you unloading and loading daily? Yes. Chambered when I carry, condition 3 at home. Too much manipulation for my taste. Exactly Get a pistol safe and stowe it loaded. As far as the "keeping track of the single round,on the range I've never even given it a thought. Drop my carry mags and +1 in a pouch on my range bag and start loading practice rounds
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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I'm always loaded to maximum capacity flave is that you?
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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How is it that a feller needs to keep track of that extra round often enough that it's a pain in the rear? Are you unloading and loading daily? Yes. Chambered when I carry, condition 3 at home. Too much manipulation for my taste. Exactly Get a pistol safe and stowe it loaded. As far as the "keeping track of the single round,on the range I've never even given it a thought. Drop my carry mags and +1 in a pouch on my range bag and start loading practice rounds Well you guys just do it your way, I'll do it my way. I dry fire practice pretty much every night, so the manipulation is gonna happen either way. Been doing it this way for 30 years, not about to change because it doesn't work for you.
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Something quite like this....
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At some point you've gotta decide that you have "enough".
To say that I'm safe with a 1911 carrying 8+1, but that I'm crazy for just carrying to mag capacity of 15 just doesn't make sense. Finally some sense! That's why I asked if they carried smaller pistols... You all have convinced me, though...to keep on doing it my way!
It ain't what you don't know that makes you an idiot...it's what you know for certain, that just ain't so...
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How is it that a feller needs to keep track of that extra round often enough that it's a pain in the rear? Are you unloading and loading daily? Yes. Chambered when I carry, condition 3 at home. Too much manipulation for my taste. Exactly Get a pistol safe and stowe it loaded. As far as the "keeping track of the single round,on the range I've never even given it a thought. Drop my carry mags and +1 in a pouch on my range bag and start loading practice rounds Well you guys just do it your way, I'll do it my way. I dry fire practice pretty much every night, so the manipulation is gonna happen either way. Been doing it this way for 30 years, not about to change because it doesn't work for you. I certainly don't think you should change. I used to do much the same, but at some point I got uncomfortable with the daily loading/unloading. Part of the issue for me has to do with my lack of routine sleep schedule. Part of it waa I was going through more factory ammo than I cared to (since I usually tossed the chamber round in the range ammo bucket). I prefer to use a gun I am not currently carrying but has the same trigger system for routine dry-fire practice. I know that I have to practice more care than some to avoid accidents. Witness, my hand. I shouldn't have just thrown that out there with no explanation. Mojo - nothing crazy about it. You do what is right for you.
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I certainly don't think you should change. I used to do much the same, but at some point I got uncomfortable with the daily loading/unloading. Part of the issue for me has to do with my lack of routine sleep schedule. Part of it waa I was going through more factory ammo than I cared to (since I usually tossed the chamber round in the range ammo bucket). I prefer to use a gun I am not currently carrying but has the same trigger system for routine dry-fire practice. I know that I have to practice more care than some to avoid accidents. Witness, my hand. I shouldn't have just thrown that out there with no explanation.
Mojo - nothing crazy about it. You do what is right for you.
Makes sense. I like the daily manipulation of my handguns; keeps me frosty. I developed some habits from being a bodyguard that I can't seem to shake even though such habits really make no sense anymore. The habit of frequently swapping carry guns. I did that when I was doing EP because it wasn't uncommon that I would find myself boarding a plane in the middle of the day, having to leave my carry gun behind, then getting a loaner on the other side; and God knows what that will be. So I always trained with as many different guns as I could get my hands on so I was proficient in the manual of arms for pretty much everything. Now it has just become habit. I kinda like the challenge at the range of someone tossing a gun in my holster and in the time it takes for me to clear leather and present, see if I can figure out which gun I'm pulling; and will I get it right and make it go bang. These days I have 6 handguns that I swap between...doesn't make a whole lot of sense to anyone but me (and even doesn't make much sense to me), but it's a "skill" I attained at the cost of a LOT of practice, and I kinda don't want to lose it.
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This question is kind of like asking if you fill your gas tank all the way up, or do you always like to leave it a few gallons short just for the heck of it.
The gun is loaded so you have to manipulate it anyway to unload before dry firing. The only downside is you have to deal with the Barney bullet. Since my clothing all has pockets, I haven't seen that as much of an issue.
The only reason I see to not go +1 is due to owning a gun that is unreliable in some way when fully loaded, or if the magazine is essentially impossible to seat when fully loaded. Other than that, I see no real persuasive argument against it, but it doesn't bother me when other people do it.
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Always. Why anyone would do otherwise is beyond me. Yep. Condition 1 with a 1911 too.
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With my LW Commander, if I carry +1 I get mag rattle pretty bad. I don't get that with my 9mm or .38 Super 1911's. Happens with ACT, McCormick, or Wilson magazines. Not sure why I'm so "lucky" with that and this gun, but it is what it is.
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Always. Why anyone would do otherwise is beyond me. Yep. Condition 1 with a 1911 too. I think you're not getting the question. I assume all of us (save one, anyway) are carrying condition one. The question relates to the magazine once condition one is arranged, i.e., topped off after racking, or leave it alone.
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Well I was carrying this but it was tricky to conceal... (P.S. I didn't carry it +6 either!) That setup would get ya about halfway through a set at an Okleehoma redneck bar there Mojo-music man.
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I use Taurus G2 Milenium 9MM. It has a nice little safety provision in the Trigger, seperate from the Manual safety on the Frame. This supposedly will not allow the pistol to fire when dropped. I am not going to try it, but it makes sense to me, since I was always taught to keep a round in the Chamber when carrying. It might be too late to have to chamber a round in a bad situation. I don't load the maximum capacity. but just chamber the top round, leaving the mag one short. But my G2 has a 10 round mag, so that's enough for me.
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Always carry fully loaded. This may not be quite so important if you are talking about a 15 round or so capacity weapon, but with a 6 or 7 round magazine, each asset has a higher degree of importance.
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