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Judging from your other posts Al, I take it the Game Warden wasn't the ticket? Pros/Cons; the good, the bad, the ugly. Dean, The white Marksman was supposed to be a stopgap measure till the Game Warden came it. After putting all the effort into it, it seemed like a backwards move to schitcan it in favor of the GW. I thought long & hard on selling the GW, but for what this gun was built for, I much prefer the Marksman for those endeavors.
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Any comments on how the comb height of the GW compares to the HTG? Biggest complaint I have with the HTG is the comb is too low for my liking. I've had KMV hardware installed in half of my HTG holdings,to date. Debating on whether to 'dump' the others and go to a chassis - XLR or MDT LSS-XL.
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Any comments on how the comb height of the GW compares to the HTG? Biggest complaint I have with the HTG is the comb is too low for my liking. As is most other's complaint..... I shouldered the HTG, GW, and the Marksman trio a hundred times trying to find an objective favorite. Specs say the GW's comb only has a 1/16th height advantage over the HTG. Very seldom can I shoot prone where I go long, and I tend to hold lower than most, so my preferences are a bit less critical in that regard.
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Don't do a lot of prone shooting either - too damned hard to get back up! That said, off a bench the HTG is shy in the comb height department.
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Interestingly, I went through various McM specs on combs and still haven't quite figured out the 16th or two of hate for a HTG vs others:
A-5 - 1/4"
Varmint - 1/2"
Sporter - 1/2"
Mountain - 9/16"
Game Scout - 9/16"
HTG - 5/8"
Classic - 11/16"
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A little tidbit I forgot to include on the last outing:
It was at 1785 yards......
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A little tidbit I forgot to include on the last outing:
It was at 1785 yards......
But can ya hit anything close, and in a no-wind condition?
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Looks like you were still in the same ball park though .
TB, CWD and Covid-19 , free so far.....
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A little tidbit I forgot to include on the last outing: It was at 1785 yards......
But can ya hit anything close, and in a no-wind condition? Depends on your definition of close........bigger grin.....
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Time to stretch it a bit more.....1825 yards... The previous night's forecast called for light winds this AM, so I went out after supper that night to set the steel up, to take advantage of good conditions.
Well that didn't pan out, the wind never did lay down and was still huffing as soon as I rolled out of bed. Right in my face too....oh well....
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So I dialed in 56 MOA and took two sighter shots in the dirt to foul the bore and get a wind reading, then moved over on the 24" square (12x24 each) steel. First shot was the low/left hit, next was the low impact in the dirt just below it, 3rd was the upper right hit, 4th was just a RCH left of the steel (in the shadow), and 5th was the low right hit. I'm calling it around a 24" group. Not bad consider the head on blow.
Looking back.....Set-up was at the back treeline in the gap three quarters of the way to the right by the tallest tree....
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FYI....the Sig could not range the steel nor the treeline anywhere behind it....
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I need to get my sig out and see if I got one of the greatest things ever or one of the good enough for my needs kind. I haven't took a shot over 300 yards all year so it's not been a priority.
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I need to get my sig out and see if I got one of the greatest things ever or one of the good enough for my needs kind. I'm not dissing the Sig, just give my experiences and the limitations I have found with it. Right now, you'd think you have the Superman of rangefinders in your mitts with all the foliage on the trees and brush. I too can range houses, barns, water towers, etc to ungodly ranges, but typically don't find many critters to shoot holed up next to them. Again, for most people's needs, they are the cat's ass to sane distances, just not the holy grail some state.
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It'll be fine for me then. I've never shot past 1000 and don't get to do that anytime I want. I can shoot to 675 when I want and I still have plenty of practice to do there..haha.
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Last time at 1850 or so....just jugs for targets....
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Some of the carnage....Exit of 183 SMK.....zero expansion....
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Lol....sure is. I do good to do that a thousand yards closer
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