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Just picked up a 1917 Enfield, that had been sporterized, Fajen Stock, cock on opening done to it, trigger tuned, new barrel, Lyman Globe sights front and rear, for less than $300.
This is a rifle that is 98 or 99 years old, Remington built ( not Eddystone).... will many of these budget rifles new on shelves nowadays be around in 98-99 years from now?
Bet this Enfield will.
oh and it is more than accurate.
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.... will many of these budget rifles new on shelves nowadays be around in 98-99 years from now?
For many joe blow average hunters, yes. They're not loonys and don't shoot 1 box of ammo per year and probably don't clean the bore yearly either. For serious hunters/shooters the obvious answer is NO. Again, I'd rather have quality the first time. Jerry
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700 ADL 30-06 made before Dupont sold Remington.
Gloss blue and walnut, at reasonable prices.
Few hunting guns are ever shot much, most will last several lifetimes. This^^^ I say this also, it's the route I always try to go if I have time to hunt shops/pawnshops, and there's really a lot of these rifles still around.
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700 ADL 30-06 made before Dupont sold Remington.
Gloss blue and walnut, at reasonable prices.
Few hunting guns are ever shot much, most will last several lifetimes. This^^^ I say this also, it's the route I always try to go if I have time to hunt shops/pawnshops, and there's really a lot of these rifles still around. Ditto. Recently bought one from 1973. Solid American made shooter.
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Old Crab, For many non-looney shooters, the 30-06 is the only rifle cartridge that many can name, offhand. And many choose the cartridge simply for that fact. There are any number of common, off the shelf rifles and cartridges that I'd choose before the 30-06 for an older or occasional shooter that would be more fun to shoot and just as deadly on deer. OTOH, a lot of guys are simply fascinated with the Springfield cartridge, and nothing wrong with that. I would explore the options before putting money on a rifle. Or you could show your buddy the classifieds here and see how many rifles he tries as things take their natural course... 
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Just picked up a 1917 Enfield, that had been sporterized, Fajen Stock, cock on opening done to it, trigger tuned, new barrel, Lyman Globe sights front and rear, for less than $300.
This is a rifle that is 98 or 99 years old, Remington built ( not Eddystone).... will many of these budget rifles new on shelves nowadays be around in 98-99 years from now?
Bet this Enfield will.
oh and it is more than accurate. A lot of us mentioned used, but the OP scoffed at the remarks. You know you can't find a good used accurate rifle anymore these days.....  His friend is also "gun savvy" according to the OP. My question to all of you loonies out there is, how many of you truly "gun savvy" types have ever got burned buying a used 30-06 rifle? Generally, gun savvy types know what to look for when buying a used rifle. Some of my most accurate 30-06 rifles were used when I got them. As a matter of fact, the only 30-06 rifles I've ever bought were used, except for 1. 1 POS Remington BDL hot off the shelf, brand spanking new and I had to send the POS back to the factory because the chamber wasn't cut right. I can't list all the used 30-06 rifles that I've had, that were damn good rifles and accurate as well/hell because there were just too damn many of them. I'm thinking the OP's friend is not as "gun savvy", as he's letting on. 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Just picked up a 1917 Enfield, that had been sporterized, Fajen Stock, cock on opening done to it, trigger tuned, new barrel, Lyman Globe sights front and rear, for less than $300.
This is a rifle that is 98 or 99 years old, Remington built ( not Eddystone).... will many of these budget rifles new on shelves nowadays be around in 98-99 years from now?
Bet this Enfield will.
oh and it is more than accurate. A lot of us mentioned used, but the OP scoffed at the remarks. You know you can't find a good used accurate rifle anymore these days..... His friend is also "gun savvy" according to the OP. My question to all of you loonies out there is, how many of you truly "gun savvy" types have ever got burned buying a used 30-06 rifle? Generally, gun savvy types know what to look for when buying a used rifle. Some of my most accurate 30-06 rifles were used when I got them. As a matter of fact, the only 30-06 rifles I've ever bought were used, except for 1. 1 POS Remington BDL hot off the shelf, brand spanking new and I had to send the POS back to the factory because the chamber wasn't cut right. I can't list all the used 30-06 rifles that I've had, that were damn good rifles and accurate as well/hell because there were just too damn many of them. I'm thinking the OP's friend is not as "gun savvy", as he's letting on. I bought an H&R single shot that tended to open on firing. got rid of it. Other than that I've bought a bunch of used rifles (over half what I have in the safes) and have never gotten one that shot poorly. When I want a quality rifle that shoots accurately, the first place look is for one that s used. Saw a pretty nice Ruger M77 in 7x57 this weekend at the Tanner gun show in Denver. $395. If I didn't already have a M77 in 7mm RM and a Hawkeye in .380 it would have gone home with me.
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There was a nice remington model 78 in the classifieds for I believe $475 , ditto for a inter arms mauser. Depends on what you mean by budget, I recently sold a couple of stevens 200 rifles though not 30-06 but they were solid rifles. If he wants new call Whittaker guns In Owensboro Ky the Howa is as good as you'll find for under $400.
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No worries but would like to add that a freshly produced 2016 Rem 700 ADL package rifle from WallyWorld had ZERO function, feeding or finish flaws like some reported from a couple-few years ago. For $379 it a crazy bargain. Not saying it's like the good ol' days, nor suggesting it's better than this or that, but it wasn't phucqk'ed up in the least. Around here, oft-times used ones are $600+. There's always exceptions and there's always good deals... Saw it somewhere, I think in a Nosler manual, a 30-06 rifle is ubiquitous. Right along with a decent deal on a 270 it's likely the easiest find there is. That 78 for $425 would have worked... Saw a mint pre-83 700 BDL 7-08 the other day for $500 and still kicking myself for not throwing it on layaway. Just because... But then 'budget' is a relative term.
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There was a nice remington model 78 in the classifieds for I believe $475
If he wants new call Whittaker guns In Owensboro Ky the Howa is as good as you'll find for under $400. IMO $475. Is too high for a 78 The Howa (S-W, Wby Vanguard) for less than 400 is a much better bargain. Jerry
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...feel my friend should buy "new" to get the warranty... . This advice will most surely cause your friend to pay top dollar for a cheap rifle... arguably the worst kind of deal possible. For the same money he'd spend on one of the cheapest, entry level rifles, he could get a much better quality, used one. Buying from a reputable seller, or having a professional do a pre-purchase inspection will be all the guaranty he'll need. When was the last time anyone needed to use a warranty on a new firearm?
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