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what one do you think is better for groundhogs and coyotes thanks
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If it will be strictly a varmint application I really like the .204
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Nope,between those two cartridges, I'll go with the .22-250 every time.
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Yeah....but you shoot rabbits with a .460 Wby........
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Ive never shot bunnies with anything bigger than a .375......
No need for something bigger.....
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A .375,holy mackerel and you survived without getting attacked!?
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I was even able to stop a charge by a wounded wabbit! Followed him into the thick stuff and could hear him gnashing his tushes! Glad I had solids that day.....
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That's where the .460 shines.
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I've heard the .204 is less destructive of coyote pelts if that's a concern. Never had a .204 so can't say for sure. For woodchucks inside 250 yards my .223 works fine. Past 250 I like my .243 better than the .22-250.
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I've owned a lot of 22-250s and none of them has been as accurate as the $350 Ruger RAR-Predator in 204.
I call coyotes and most that I shoot are under 200 yards and standing still, so never any need for the extra case capacity of the 22-250. If you were going to add deer to the menu, the 22-250 would be a better choice, but for 'chucks and 'yotes, the 204 is hard to beat.
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I would have said 22 magnum or .223 rem, but that's just me...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Yeah....but you shoot rabbits with a .460 Wby........ And WTF is wrong with that???
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The 22-250 and the 220 swift are tough to beat if your only goal is to put coyotes down hard. The problem with them however is they typically leaves a pretty extensive sewing job if you keep pelts. I have tried different bullets but at high velocity they can make a mess. The 204 works very well on coyotes if you shoot a bullet like the 35 grain Berger. The bc isn't real impressive but they hit hard and usually don't exit.
Lately I have been using different 243 loads or a 65 grain gameking in a 223 and they work well with a little less damage.
If you are going to build a 220, 22-250, or 204 get an 8 twist and then you get into some less destructive bullets the 204 in an 8 twist and a 55 grain Berger kills much better at distance than you would think
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Am not impressed so far with 20 cal on coyotes...bullets are too explosive for my liking...awesome on small varmints tho... This coming winter I plan to try the hornady 45 gr bullet might change my mind...
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I don't see the advantage to the 20's that others have claimed. To me the 30-40gr. bullet weights don't allow for any better spotting of my own shots than the .223. But I have only spent time behind one type of .204.
IME the .17 Remington puts coyotes and 'chucks in the dirt and allows me to see 100% of my shots.
Of the two asked about I'd take the 22-250 and run.
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I don't see the advantage to the 20's that others have claimed. To me the 30-40gr. bullet weights don't allow for any better spotting of my own shots than the .223. This is exactly what I've seen. Another potential strike against the 204 is having to buy new cleaning supplies. I vote for the 22-250.
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