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Just passed by the state Senate and the House, gun bills go to the Governor's desk... Link Phil
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All these ammo restrictions are predicated on no mail-order ammo. They tried that once before and it was overturned in court, not sure why they think it will stand this time.
Phugging liberal democrats are drunk with power, we'll see what Moonbeam does, I'll be surprised if he signs them all. They can kiss my azz, I won't comply with any of it, I won't pay for no stinking ammo license, I'll stock up in Nevada if I have to and smuggle what I need in, but I won't pay them schitt!!
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Just passed by the state Senate and the House, gun bills go to the Governor's desk... Link Phil You must be so proud. Probably announce further legislation based on the Istanbul Airport attack.
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Don't bitch you voted for it.
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Glad I will be leaving the land of fruits and nuts very soon.
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Where did you see me bitching about it? And it wasn't up for anyone to vote for, strictly up to the majority in the legislature!
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Mongo Jerry will sign the bills into law. Look for a rough ride ahead.
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Just passed by the state Senate and the House, gun bills go to the Governor's desk... Link Phil You must be so proud. Probably announce further legislation based on the Istanbul Airport attack. Do I sound proud?
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Don't bitch you voted for it. I voted for it like you voted for it.
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Glad I will be leaving the land of fruits and nuts very soon. Don't blame you, with liberals from out of state and illegals, we have been overrun.
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I am amazed at the things those California reps can think up. If they'd just move to Detroit of Chicago, there'd be no crime at all in those communities.
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Don't bitch you voted for it. And they continue to vote for it every day with the payment of the exorbitant PRK taxes.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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The voters in Cali did not assent to this corrupt condition yesterday - they gave permission with votes in increments over a long time period. Negligence brings paybacks. It's a beautiful once-great state, and I feel bad for the good folks who live with the voting results.
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[color:#3333FF]Link..![/color][/b] SACRAMENTO -- Less than three weeks after the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history, the California Legislature on Thursday approved a raft of bills that aim to keep the state's citizens safer from deadly gun violence by placing sweeping new restrictions on firearms owners. [b]The Assembly endorsed legislation that seeks to ban possession of high-capacity ammunition magazines and close a loophole in the state's existing assault weapons ban by prohibiting long guns with "bullet buttons" that make it easier for shooters to swap magazines. In the Senate, lawmakers advanced bills that would restrict residents from buying more than one long gun in a 30-day period and expand the group of people who may request a gun violence restraining order. They will consider a few more bills later today. "This is designed to try to (prevent) a tragedy just waiting to happen," said Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, speaking about Assembly Bill 2607, which would allow people to ask judges to confiscate guns from coworkers they believe to be dangerous.The package of a dozen bills had been introduced following last December's terrorist killings in San Bernardino, and lawmakers planned to act on the measures this summer before the recent massacre at an Orlando gay nightclub, where 49 people were slaughtered. So the timing of the votes has put California in a national spotlight because it's widely assumed the Republican Congress won't endorse any gun bills this year -- despite Democrats' recent protests. All but a few Democrats voted in favor of the four measures the Assembly considered over the passionate objections of many Republicans, who insisted the bills will do nothing to keep guns or bullets out of criminals' hands. "Many want to blame those horrors and those terrorist attacks on law-abiding citizens," said Assemblywoman Shannon Grove, R-Bakersfield, speaking about the mass shootings in Orlando and San Bernardino. "But you can't control murder. You can't stop insanity." Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León's bill to require background checks for ammunition sales sparked the greatest debate in the Assembly because it seeks to override a provision of Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom's gun control ballot measure before voters have even considered it. Successful legislation authored by de León in 2009 regulated the sale of ammunition, but a judge later ruled that its definition of ammunition was too vague to enforce. De León's Senate Bill 1235 seeks to remedy the problem by defining ammunition as "one or more loaded cartridges consisting of a primer case, propellant and with one or more projectiles." Newsom's Safety for All initiative also seeks to regulate the sale of ammunition and require background checks for prospective bullet buyers, but the bill and the ballot measure differ in their approach on this issue. And in a brazen move, de León amended SB 1235 to state that his bill's ammunition background check system must take effect should Newsom's initiative pass in November. "This bill is a classic razzle dazzle rigmarole bait and switch," said Assemblyman Brian Jones, R-Santee, who joined a chorus of GOP Assembly members who questioned whether de León actions were even legal. The nonpartisan Legislative Counsel, however, says they are. The Senate on Thursday morning overwhelmingly approved legislation that aims to place a measure on the November ballot to amend Proposition 47 by classifying the theft of a firearm as a felony even if the value of the gun is less than $950. It passed 33-1. Legislation requiring background checks for the purchase of gun parts that could be used to assemble a firearm also cleared the upper house easily. The only bill that struggled to win enough support to advance was Assemblyman Phil Ting's AB 2607 to expand the group of people who may request gun violence restraining orders.
While the current law only applies to family members and law enforcement officers, the new legislation would extend that right to mental health workers, employers, co-workers and school employees.Sen. Anthony Cannella, R-Ceres, argued the proposal would be ripe for abuse, especially in the workplace. "(Have) you ever had co-workers that you haven't gotten along with?" he asked, insisting that coworkers who have been hostile to one another would use the legislation. Initially, only 18 senators voted in favor of the bill, but three Democrats later added their support, giving the legislation the 21 votes it needed to advance. In a rare move, Gov. Jerry Brown may act on the package of bills as soon as this afternoon ahead of a midnight deadline for Newsom to decide whether to pull his gun control initiative from the November ballot. The measure tackles some of the same topics addressed by the legislation.
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Exactly
90% of the small towns in California are republican leaning voters, having to deal with laws agree'd to by the large city Democrats and idiot republicans who agree with more gun laws. Come hang out with the Ranchers, Farmers and intelligent small city folks that I live with, you might be surprised we still live in a great state, even if we have to tolerate the laws we deal with.
It is like the red/ blue map of the US, those not in the big 3 cities here are republican voting, and if WE leave the state it will be 100% democrat, which serves no one.
Anyone who thinks " moving to a more gun friendly state" , in my eye's, are fools. When are you going to stop running from them? Colorado was THE place to go 20 years ago, and it isn't anymore.
I am a 5th generation Californian, and ALL of my family lives here. The law's are rediculous, but I will stand my ground and be buried, hopefully not early, in California. No animosity to those who suggest us gun owning Californians move out, but Y'all , and the Stupid laws, are not going to win.
Carry on
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Exactly
90% of the small towns in California are republican leaning voters, having to deal with laws agree'd to by the large city Democrats and idiot republicans who agree with more gun laws. Come hang out with the Ranchers, Farmers and intelligent small city folks that I live with, you might be surprised we still live in a great state, even if we have to tolerate the laws we deal with.
It is like the red/ blue map of the US, those not in the big 3 cities here are republican voting, and if WE leave the state it will be 100% democrat, which serves no one.
Anyone who thinks " moving to a more gun friendly state" , in my eye's, are fools. When are you going to stop running from them? Colorado was THE place to go 20 years ago, and it isn't anymore.
I am a 5th generation Californian, and ALL of my family lives here. The law's are rediculous, but I will stand my ground and be buried, hopefully not early, in California. No animosity to those who suggest us gun owning Californians move out, but Y'all , and the Stupid laws, are not going to win.
Carry on It's already 100% D in laws and governance. You just get the privilege of paying for it and living directly under that yoke.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Exactly
90% of the small towns in California are republican leaning voters, having to deal with laws agree'd to by the large city Democrats and idiot republicans who agree with more gun laws. Come hang out with the Ranchers, Farmers and intelligent small city folks that I live with, you might be surprised we still live in a great state, even if we have to tolerate the laws we deal with.
It is like the red/ blue map of the US, those not in the big 3 cities here are republican voting, and if WE leave the state it will be 100% democrat, which serves no one.
Anyone who thinks " moving to a more gun friendly state" , in my eye's, are fools. When are you going to stop running from them? Colorado was THE place to go 20 years ago, and it isn't anymore.
I am a 5th generation Californian, and ALL of my family lives here. The law's are rediculous, but I will stand my ground and be buried, hopefully not early, in California. No animosity to those who suggest us gun owning Californians move out, but Y'all , and the Stupid laws, are not going to win.
Carry on I agree COMPLETELY. Californians should NEVER leave California. Colorado was the place, till the f*cking Californians started going in there in droves. It's not the moving that's the issue, it's the who is doing the moving. And, as we've seen, the mass exodus of Yankees to the south hasn't made for a stronger south. Yankees and Californians, destroying the nation.
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Where did you see me bitching about it? And it wasn't up for anyone to vote for, strictly up to the majority in the legislature!
Phil You're a democrat, you voted for it.
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Material like that posted by Deerwhacker444 can stun the brain - just to simply imagine that an elected politiciam can be so insanely misguided about murder/crime and what will - and will not - prevent same. There are some social idiots proposing and voting for those useless - and damaging - bills. The California legislature is a JOKE. A bad one.
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" ... just to simply imagine that an elected politician can be so insanely misguided about murder/crime and what will - and will not - prevent same." The California legislature is a JOKE. A bad one. In fact, the Calif. left wing legislators are not misguided at all. They know exactly what they are doing. For those far left Democrat hypocrites, it is about posing, and pontificating, pounding their chests and punching holes in the air with their fingers about how they care so much for "the people." It's all a show. They could not care less about preventing murders. They know that criminals are going to get guns no matter what and continue to commit murders and all kinds of other crimes. They have one thing in mind: Complete CONTROL of the honest worker peasants and serfs, and to do that they must disarm -- eventually -- all of them to establish their idea of their much longed for Great Brave New Marxist Socialist Fascist Police State Utopia. They are -- in my opinion -- truly evil males and females who seek to destroy the State of Calif, and eventually, the United States. Their like minded comrades also populate the halls of Congress in D.C. My take on the Democrat California legislators in Sacramento. L.W.
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