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Looking to add another big game rifle to the line up. I've been offered my choice of .264 win mag, 7 rem mag, .300 win mag and Weatherby. Now the .300's don't particularly excite me but I've turned to the learned here for advice. My current big game rifles are a .30-06 and 7mm-08. Moose and black bear are the most likely quarry other than whitetails. Nothing that my current two can't handle without a sweat, but variety is the spice of life.
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I would spend my money on something else.
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If you got a 30/06 and 7/08, that's the answer.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I would spend my money on something else. This. If you can't get it done in North America with a .30-06 or 7-08, then another rifle isn't going to solve your problems.
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If you're looking for variety but also practicalness, elk's suggestion above is spot on.
Lots of folks are surprised at the .375 H&H's relative lack of recoil, effectiveness on smaller game without excessive damage, and availability of rounds. I've settled on the 260 Partition in mine, and while not exactly a long range setup, it has proven ridiculously effective on black bear, elk, whitetail, wolf and antelope. Never shot a moose with it, but would not be concerned about it's ability to.
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The OP specifically said "Nothing that my current two can't handle without a sweat, but variety is the spice of life"...he's looking for an excuse to buy another rifle for the hell of it, not because he thinks he needs one.
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Nothing wrong with wanting another rifle. I've gotten away from magnums lately but I keep a couple of 7Mags in the safe. I tried a 300 Win Mag but it was more than I wanted. A 7Mag is about the top of my comfort level. It's similar recoil wise to the 30-06 with flatter trajectory. If the chance to hunt something really big ever comes along, I can load it up with a 160 TSX or 175 Partition and not feel a bit under-gunned.
I've never tried a 264 Win Mag, but it does interest me. Maybe some day.
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Looking to add another big game rifle to the line up. I've been offered my choice of .264 win mag, 7 rem mag, .300 win mag and Weatherby. Now the .300's don't particularly excite me but I've turned to the learned here for advice. My current big game rifles are a .30-06 and 7mm-08. Moose and black bear are the most likely quarry other than whitetails. Nothing that my current two can't handle without a sweat, but variety is the spice of life. Out of what you've been offered, I'd go .300 Win.
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A .264 will recoil about like your .30-06 and produce a significantly flatter trajectory with similar sectional density. It will certainly need at least a 24" barrel and could easily use one 26" or longer. Since I usually go with after market I would use a 28" barrel in that cartridge. Although I would wear out the factory barrel first !
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A .264 will recoil about like your .30-06 and produce a significantly flatter trajectory with similar sectional density. It will certainly need at least a 24" barrel and could easily use one 26" or longer. Since I usually go with after market I would use a 28" barrel in that cartridge. Although I would wear out the factory barrel first Yeah.... SURE you would...
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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The 300 and then rebore/rebarrel it to 338 Win Mag
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Those calibers tend to be bolt action. Since you already have a couple, maybe consider a different package like a lever action or pump. Maybe a 45/70, 444 Marlin or perhaps a Remington 7600 in .35 Whelen.
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The 300 and then rebore/rebarrel it to 338 Win Mag I was thinking .264 if the seller will come down some on the price. Then I have the option of working my way up to the .375 CT one rebore at a time.
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Other than what chambering, maybe a different style of rifle would add some variety to your lineup. If you have standard weight rifles, maybe a lightweight 264 or 7RM? I had an ULA 7RM that was a joy to carry and was more pleasant than you'd expect when the trigger was pulled.
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300 Weatherby all the way! I like 180 grain Nosler Partitions.
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why are you limited to those four calibers??
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The 7-08 is a lightish weight rifle. Model 7 with a 24" aftermarket barrel. Next step will be fluting and getting a synthetic stock for it. The cartridges listed are just the ones I've been offered that intrigue me either due to rifle, perhaps a 760 series in a .35 Whelan or Marlin in a .444 or .45-70 is an avenue I should look at.
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The 7-08 is a lightish weight rifle. Model 7 with a 24" aftermarket barrel. Next step will be fluting and getting a synthetic stock for it. The cartridges listed are just the ones I've been offered that intrigue me either due to rifle, perhaps a 760 series in a .35 Whelan or Marlin in a .444 or .45-70 is an avenue I should look at. Of the ones you mention in your original post unless you handload the 264 Win Mag (which I have and like) isn't a good option so I would go with the 7mm Rem Mag instead since you can get cheap shells at Canadian Tire. The 300 will only add recoil to the equation. Since you have a 7mm-08 and 30-06 I would look at a 223 instead or one of the ones you just mentioned, the 7600 35 Whelen or a Marlin. The Marlin lever guns have pretty heavy recoil so if the stock doesn't fit well (like it does with me) it isn't fun to shoot.
Gerry.
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