If it helps any, I had to downsize to .380 (sig 238) in a small-maker 'executive iwb' hoslter having just one j-clip, to be convinced my iwb was un-noticeable. This was in an office setting where get up-down umpteen times in a day, sitting on stools and reaching here and there, which tends to challenge keeping a shirt tucked as well as not printing. Anything larger than my little P238 I was conscious of printing. Some claim to make a full-sized pistol disappear and maybe they're right, but IMO physics is physics - a smaller pistol hides easier. And yeah a .380 of 6 round cap is a compromise, but at bad breath distances, Cor-Bon DPX's, I'd take it over nothing anytime.
With modern loads, that's not a terrible option at all. I think the best of the breed is the Critical Defense. It will expand and adequately penetrate, and clothes don't prevent expansion due to the plastic cap.
Terry once posted a link to a new holster design that seems to be really good for resolving this issue. The holster rides all the way inside the pants, with only a flap accessible above the waistband. You pull the flap, and the gun and holster get pulled up to where they're accessible for a draw. Can anyone remember the name of this product, and perhaps provide a link?
Here it is: Folks will just assume Sean is sporting a colostomy bag.
I've seen some stupid schit designed and sold before, but that one has to be quite a ways up on the dumbphuckitude ladder.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
I've got a couple of different tuckable holsters because of my business attire. I've decided that I could access my pistol faster if I simply kept it in the trunk of the car.
What does work for me is using a tuckable holster untucked with a cover garment. Very comfortable.
Glock 43 with clipdraw. Not perfect, but not bad either. For the record, I won't carry THIS gun THIS way with a round chambered. But I've not found anything else with this much power this concealable. It is a little slower to get into action, but a lot faster than going back to the car to get the gun I didn't carry.
If you wore that with a black belt, very few people would notice anything.
I don't know guys, it works fine for me. G19 on a Zach holster works (once you get the cord adjusted to the right length) and really isn't noticeable. The draw is a little slower than an untucked shirt, but not by much.
I don't carry tucked often, and don't like it as much because the tucking is a pain, but it does work fine when necessary. I carry appendix at about 1:00. I don't have a large belly though; that makes a big difference.
I wear my G19 in an AlienGear Cloak Tuck 2 and my 43 in a Vedder Light Tuck. No other choice for the summer here in TN and I have to work in areas that are gun free...I have found that as long as it doesn't print like that dick holster above, no one really notices, and if if they do, they don't say anything. I literally have worn my extra mag on my belt in an open top carrier, with the gun tucked, and no one has ever said a single word about it. In fact, most people that recognize the mag think I took the gun off when they don't immediately see it.
The Alien Gear stuff gets good reviews but it's a HUGE piece of stuff. You don't find it cumbersome?
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
I tried one of the belly band rigs, worn high so it would draw like a shoulder holster, the past few Sundays at church. It's not super comfortable (to cinch it tight enough that it didn't sag made it pretty tight) but I gradually got used to it. It's a better option for me than a tuckable holster.
I tried one of the belly band rigs, worn high so it would draw like a shoulder holster, the past few Sundays at church. It's not super comfortable (to cinch it tight enough that it didn't sag made it pretty tight) but I gradually got used to it. It's a better option for me than a tuckable holster.
The alien Gear isn't that big. It's pretty flat and distributes weight well due to the neoprene. I can be hot in the summer if you are outside, but its not as bad sizewise as you'd think...
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." - Ronald Reagan
I talked with this guy for a while this A.M. after seeing your post. He's in the same boat most of are in. Carrying IWB just plain sucks. It's not comfortable by any means, and in a lot of cases it becomes painful, like if you have to bend over a lot. His Cargo shorts and pants and the Khaki shorts and pants are cut very genously below the waistline. The gun is actually in a holster that rides below your waist, so you don't get gouged every time you bend over. He carries a Glock 19, and tells me it's indetectable (Good advertizing?). He also said some people successfully carry full sized semi-auto pistols. Revolvers are certainly an alternative also. I'm going to buy some of the shorts and see which of my handguns I can realistically carry. He said he's been looking for an alternative to concealed carry that insures you actually carry a firearm when you leave the house.