Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Is the Lockdown thing getting out of hand?

I realize that there are instances where "locking down" is probably not a bad idea. For instance, if a child is abducted in a mall or such it makes sense to control or shut off entry and exit. Or to keep people out of a potential line of fire in cases that warrant it.
But what does bother me is the frequency and some of the reasons that prompt lockdowns, in schools especially.
A friend of mine's wife is a teacher and said recently that VERY seldom does two weeks go by without a lockdown of some sort. We had a case a couple of months ago where an unarmed shoplifter broke loose from a Wal-Mart security person and fled the store on foot. The immediate reaction was to put two schools more than a mile and a half away on lockdown. No wonder we are seeing the schools turning out a lot of bedwetters and kids who just take all this in stride. It seems like our ability to properly access threats has gone down the drain.
I guess the point of all this is soon we are going to have a population that has never known anything but to respond "how high" when told to jump by whatever authority for whatever reason.
I can't help but believe that there is a nefarious agenda involved here. You know, "get'em early" and they won't know how to stand up later.

John

John,

I worked maintenance in the largest school system in Ohio, and there were lockdowns frequently for stuff that happened a LONG ways from the school that locked down.

I always made it a point to make a rapid exit from the building when it was first announced so I wouldn't get stuck for hours.

Myron

Figure out the end goal, and work backwards.

The dmn schools have become like maximum security prisons. There are cameras covering almost every square inch, inside and outside.

It takes an employee badge AND a magnetic scan card to get into any building, and every school has a different access code. For anyone to be able to access most buildings like we did, the card must be specially coded for all those buildings.

Myron

It's a safety AND liability issue in an attorney driven sue crazy society.

How do parents and visitors enter?

MOGC.

Ring a doorbell and wait for the receptionist to view them on camera and buzz them in.

Had to state their identity and explain why they were there on an intercom..

Myron

That's the weak point... bad people lie.

MOGC,

Yes, but at least they don't just walk in unannounced willy-nilly.

Myron

And how many times has there been a walk in shooting at a school in the USA in say 25 years. School lasts 9 months and 5 days a week. Percentage wise its close to zero. There is a lot of scared people for no reason. ED K

Quick, bring in busloads of counselors!

Gotten to be the same thing around here too.

Ridiculous.. I can agree with that in North Murderapolis, but in rural school areas in villages/towns less than 20K population??? BS..

No, there is a reason and it's not because the people in charge are scared. It has everything to do with control, and they are starting as early as possible now to instill a .gov control over every aspect of life.

Brainwashing works.

Look at even the folks that have lived in KA so long as a whole. They, even the ones that lean conservative for the most part, are actually liberal.

With the advent of the cell phone and the internet "dangerous and incomplete" information can spread in seconds. The Schools are stuck taking the most extreme measures because if one thing happens in the school you and I know the lawsuits will be huge. It's all about being sued because they didn't do something or they did something and someone didn't like it.

It's a no win for them. They are easy targets for greedy pi$$ed off parents with a grudge (rightly so or not) and greedy lawyers. As taxpayers, you will be footing the bill in the end.

Wait until the president visits your community.

This topic reminds me of another matter, which is the total shutdown of busy highways - sometimes for hours - at the scene of a trafic accident. Once any injured are treated/transported, those involved are cared for and the involved vehicles are off the roadway (normally not more than 20 to 30 minutes) the road should be re-opened. Can anyone give a sensible reason why the police keep such roadways closed for time periods way beyond the clearance actions?

If there is a fatality or serious injury, there's a lot of crime scene investigation that has to happen. Accident reconstruction and evidence gathering takes time. I know that's often the situation in this area. It might not account for all of the closures, but it does for many - at least here.

Yes, already understood - have seen those injury/death "investigations", but WHY investigate? What makes every such incident a "crime scene"? The persons were hurt, or killed. They are in the hospital, or dead and gone. It's over. What forces the automatic "investigation" - every time?

Why investigate? Appropriate charges need filed and if you do the investigation you want to win in court so it has to be done right. Also, lawyers are hanging on every word and piece of evidence so "the family can be justly compensated".

If the family settles the lawyers 1/3. If it goes to trial they get 1/2.

kwg