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I hear you. For nearly a century people of been disengaging safeties of all types. then in the 80s can start showing up without safeties and suddenly people are completely confused, can't operate a safety, and now you have those who profess they'll get you killed.

Just like how people were able to manipulate an external hammer on a rifle, shotgun, or handgun for some 400 years, but now days all the instructors say to never mess with the hammer on any loaded firearm. I've been lowering hammers to half cock on Winchester 94's, muzzle loaders, and various Winchester pump 22's since I was eight years old, not once has a hammer slipped from my fingers.

Kevin,
I am just realistic about what a production 1911 will do. What it will do is let you down. I bet I have owned and been around more 1911's than you have.

I wish they worked but I can't get them to all the time.

I also bet you don't burn many rounds in yours or carry yours very much. That's the reason you don't post pics of it.

Dink

I currently only have one. My round count varies, since I'm not a professional shooter. I dunno, a couple thousand or so these days. Much more in the past. The HP eats more of my range time, and the K9 eats some as well. Once several thousand rounds have gone down range without fail, I think the point is moot.

I started my 1911 experience with a cheap RIA, expecting that it wouldn't run right out of the box and that I would learn something in the process. It didn't, and I did. After applying what I learned (which was all simple stuff) that gun ran without fail, and continues to do so. I skipped the whining part.

You can spend a lot of money on a 1911 that runs right out of the box and still make it fail with the right parts or mods. I don't think you're relying on luck with your purchase - just with what you did afterward.

You really belive Internet photos are an indication of experience?

Cripes! Who has time to photograph everything?

Here is what pics will tell you about a gun that supposedly used hard. If it looks new in the box they ain't being carried or used.

Kevin likes to copy pics off the net and say his 1911 "looks like this one".

If a gun been carried everyday for more than a decade it's going to show it.

Dink

You make a good point, there, Kevin. The concern is likely much overblown.

Ah, just another "_____ pistol sucks because mine didn't work perfectly" thread.

I have no idea how many rounds Kevin has fired from his 1911. No idea how many have been fired from mine, either. It's a 1970s vintage Colt Series 70, factory nickel, that was bought by the father of a dear friend and carried by that man for many years. My friend then carried it, and I know for a fact that both of them shot the Hell out of it (as they did with all the firearms they owned). I received it as a "gift"/"permanent loan" almost a decade ago. I've carried it a LOT and shot it a LOT. To my knowledge, it has never failed to feed, fire, or eject.

Obviously, YMMV, but it doesn't mean that the 1911 is a poor choice for carry. You simply prefer something else. I don't like or trust Beretta M9/92s because I had three break on me. I know other folks who have carried and shot them for years with no malfunctions whatsoever. Does that mean the Beretta "sucks" because I don't trust it and had bad experiences with it? No. It means I need to carry something else because for ME, the Beretta isn't something that inspires confidence, and confidence is key. Hell, I even had a Glock go "kaboom" on me; something that I've never had happen with any 1911 I've owned or shot. Does that mean that Glocks "suck"? I think not, but if you're going to malign an entire design because you are having problems with it while others don't, well....

Anyway, enough with that; have fun with the rest of the trolling post as you've clearly gotten plenty of bites and I suspect that was the purpose.

Hmmmm.... now WHO would overblow such a concern?













Just a small sample from no later than late April.

Still, though, I've seen Hickok 45 forget to take the safety off guns he's testing, and that guy is fairly experienced, having at one time competed extensively with 1911s. For what it's worth, his recommendation is to decide whether you're a cocked and locked guy or a no safety guy, and stick with it, for this very reason. Makes sense.

Ah, you saw it on the Internet from someone else doing something and therefore it must be so.

NO surprise there....

No, but lineage would have suggested the Congo. Lol

So do Model A's.




Dave

Obviously.



Dave

The 1911 should include a free armorer's course.




Dave

Laughin' here.

MM

Let's be clear. You're suggesting one of two possible things, either that Hickok45 actually isn't an experienced handgun shooter, or that he pretended to forget to deactivate a safety on a handgun. Which one?

No, let's be clear; I'm not suggesting anything at all and much less that horsechit of a dodge you just attempted. I'm stating something rather plainly: that you said that your basis for your position on safeties is that you saw someone else do something on the Internet. That you base your opinion on someone else doing something and you seeing it on the Internet is no surprise.



Reading comprehension 101, Chriss....

Pure hyperbole, my friend. No one's buying it, apart from your amen corner here at the Fire.

Oh, but these days it does. One has only to invest the time.

No, folks know quite clearly that you aren't stating anything from personal experience; you're basing everything off of what you saw someone else on the Internet do. That's what you said, and that's exactly what I restated and it's still not a surprise.

Other folks talk about personal experience; you talk about seeing someone else do something on the Internet.