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The federales need to quit fuggin' around.

If they want them, they need to start coming door to door for them.

Surprise!

In ancient Israel, the Philistines kept the Jews under control with a weapons ban. They also banned blacksmiths because blacksmiths could forge weapons.

At the same time, when the Jews needed work on their farming tools they had to take them to the Philistines who would charge them exorbitant prices for the work.

Sound familiar?

I Samuel, 13:19-23: Not a blacksmith could be found in the whole land of Israel, because the Philistines had said, “Otherwise the Hebrews will make swords or spears!”

They have plenty of practice...been doing it since 9/11.

There is nothing new under the sun. Where's the "like" button for this?

Steve.

This matter was the basis for the Declaration of Independence and was settled through a Revolutionary War by the People. It was not a Constitutional matter litigated in Federal courts.

Tyrants don't respect or abide the Law, or its processes and artifacts.

I see this something like a tax. You all have heard of ObamaCare? The same thing and the Supremes are going to see it Mr. Obama's way.

This is dangerous stuff.

kwg

any licensing fee is a tax by another name.

to add, word of some is that the Hebrews wandered in the desert for 40 years because the Philistines inhabited and controlled the coastal areas. they had ties with the Greeks for "high quality " weapons. they were able to force the Hebrews to by-pass their lands and thus they wound up following a desert path to the holy land.

“In the first 100 days, we’re going to knock the hell out of Obamacare,” Trump declared to his audience’s approval. “You know the great thing about executive orders is that I don’t have to go back to Congress. I just sit down… and I will be unsigning many, maybe not all. Maybe there’s a couple of good ones [Obama policies], I don’t know, I doubt it.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/03/t...s-to-unsign-obamas-agenda/#ixzz4G10wuZJH

It keeps going back to the one thing Trump can do that could save our country more than anything else. Four constitutionalist SC Justices.

Loading the SC with a majority of justices that will follow the Constitution as it was meant to be not as how they want it to be would make a huge difference.

This is not about taxes. This is about Liberty and the will of our People to remain free. This act is on par with the despotism of George III.

We don't seem to recognize its importance because we have become dependent on others to assert the rights that solely rest with We, the People.

This is indeed, "dangerous stuff," if we intend to remain free citizens of a Constitutional Republic.

None. Eff the AIC and his EOs.

Well, hell. This puts me in a bit of a spot, I've got a custom rifle being put together right now. My riflesmith told me originally that he considered it a "repair job" since I sent him a Mauser action. We'll see how that goes, he's on vacation right now and won't be available to discuss this until next week.

Heck, I've got a 60 year old receiver with a barrel beside it because the gunsmith passed away before he could cut the neck and throat. Now getting a gunsmith to cut the neck and throat and mount the barrel becomes an ITAR regulated activity.

Idiocy of the highest order, and likely to be struck down in court if Congress doesn't overturn it before that.

It is time to clean two handguns. Can I still do it or do I have to send them back to the manufacture?

I just aired my grievance over this nonsense to my Republican congresscritter, most likely to no avail. None of his office staff had a clue what I was talking about even after I gave them Swifty52's summary of the problem in the first post above (including all the State Dept. alphabet mumbo-jumbo). We're screwed.

I predict the other shoe dropping to be a restriction/ban on reloading equipment and powder/bullets/brass/primers. Do all of you have your reloading supplies up to date??

ITAR is a strange beast. Lots of prosecutions for transmitted data on items that seem to have no relevance to anything military, yet somewhere , they have been used, and as such, get classified. Companies have whole depts set up, to monitor this now, even e-mailing a drawing to a subsidiary branch in another country. Granted, there are many legit prosecutions, but , some are kinda off the wall though, electrical items are quite an eye opener.
I can see where the US Gov't may try to impinge on reloaders & shooters thru a backdoor type of bureaucratic means. ITAR is fairly vaguely worded in order to provide that means, if they should so desire to indulge themselves.

So what you are saying is that the Hiltlistines and Obamastines are trying to take away our guns?

IIRC some D guy smacked them fools up side the head with a rock?

But nobody had a lick of faith in that D guy before he did his rock chucking.

I agree with your point Wildcatter. Just like Obama care. Basically the Supremes told us "you are slaves, get used to it"

kwg

That does not match the Biblical accout as to why the Hebrews wandered in the desert for 40 years.