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Originally Posted by JoeBob
For an average 185 to 200 pound man, as a matter of more or less accepted scientific fact, .10 BAC is four to five beers in an hour or so. It isn't schit faced and most who drink a little would hardly even consider themselves buzzed at that level of BAC.


Within legal parameters, however, is it over the legal limit to operate motor vehicles? Is it potentially a factor in elevating charges if a crime is committed?


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From what has been presented, do you folks think the police did a good job that night? Would you hire them to work in your towns?


I'd rather have no cops anywhere.



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Why didn't this go to the grand jury?


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For an average 185 to 200 pound man, as a matter of more or less accepted scientific fact, .10 BAC is four to five beers in an hour or so. It isn't schit faced and most who drink a little would hardly even consider themselves buzzed at that level of BAC.



I've arrested .28s that didn't consider themselves "buzzed"


.28? SOB.... That's coma level for most everyone.


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In handling wrongful death and life insurance claims for clients, I learned years ago that blood alcohol tests after a person dies may not be reliable. Due to postmortem fermentation when a body is not kept cool after death, there can be “false positive” blood alcohol reports up to 0.20 grams/% — 2 ½ times the legal limit of 0.08


And his BAC was taken when and where?

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Originally Posted by gitem_12



I've arrested .28s that didn't consider themselves "buzzed"


I didn't know we'd met.

Good to see you again.



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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Why didn't this go to the grand jury?


Because it's a mass conspiracy by all the police in the entire country.

BLM.




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For an average 185 to 200 pound man, as a matter of more or less accepted scientific fact, .10 BAC is four to five beers in an hour or so. It isn't schit faced and most who drink a little would hardly even consider themselves buzzed at that level of BAC.



I've arrested .28s that didn't consider themselves "buzzed"


.28? SOB.... That's coma level for most everyone.



Had a .37 one night that was coherent enough to tell.me the exact number of beers he had drank.
BTW that was 23


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And his BAC was taken when and where?


In Idaho.

After he was dead.



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In handling wrongful death and life insurance claims for clients, I learned years ago that blood alcohol tests after a person dies may not be reliable. Due to postmortem fermentation when a body is not kept cool after death, there can be “false positive” blood alcohol reports up to 0.20 grams/% — 2 ½ times the legal limit of 0.08


And his BAC was taken when and where?



I would assume by the medical examiner.

Just how warm do you think his body got in November, in Idaho?


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Originally Posted by deflave
I'm still not tracking.

The deputies testified he fired the rifle one time.

Unless you're reading something I didn't.




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Deputies testified he fired the rifle AT AN OFFICER.

That is a distinctly different from an ND into the ground at Yantis's feet.

I for one would surely like to know which is actually more akin to the truth.

If a man threatens a cop, and/or points a weapon at a cop? Smoke his ass! yes absolutely! I sure as hell will never ask a cop to use his fists in a gun fight!

We pay cops nowhere near enough to ask them to take extraordinary risks.

But the things I have read, including the deputies' statements leave me far from convinced that in Yantis's case, the cops were ever actually threatened.

If we need a measure of the caliber of man we are talking about, in the case of one deputy, we need only remember that on the night of the shooting he was yelling that Yantis had shot him. That certainly turned out to be a total fabrication.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Why didn't this go to the grand jury?


The DA made the call that there wasn't enough evidence to proceed with a prosecution beyond a reasonable doubt. Other than that, all the rest is in the 5300+ pages from the investigation.

Hey, I think the grand jury should have at least been presented the case. Were I the DA, I would have if for no other reason than to cover my ass. If the GJ indicts and a jury acquits, or a judge dismisses, the DAs office is clear. If the GJ no bills, the DAs office is clear. That said, I know a lot of DAs that think doing so is a sell out and a waste of GJ time and resources.

The folks in that area elected the sheriff and the DA. They can elect someone else later, and since no charges were brought the case could be revived (which would not be the situation had it gone to trial and ended in an acquittal).


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in todays world, if you have had one beer your the party at fault, right or wrong has nothing to do with it

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I'm still not tracking.

The deputies testified he fired the rifle one time.

Unless you're reading something I didn't.




Travis


Deputies testified he fired the rifle AT AN OFFICER.

That is a distinctly different from an ND into the ground at Yantis's feet.

I for one would surely like to know which is actually more akin to the truth.

If a man threatens a cop, and/or points a weapon at a cop? Smoke his ass! yes absolutely! I sure as hell will never ask a cop to use his fists in a gun fight!

We pay cops nowhere near enough to ask them to take extraordinary risks.

But the things I have read, including the deputies' statements leave me far from convinced that in Yantis's case, the cops were ever actually threatened.

If we need a measure of the caliber of man we are talking about, in the case of one deputy, we need only remember that on the night of the shooting he was yelling that Yantis had shot him. That certainly turned out to be a total fabrication.


Not necesarily. Had the gun discharged in close proximity to him (as I suspect they were all still within arms reach of one another he could have felt the cuncussion from the muzzle blast and thought he had been shot...while in accurate, that is not a fabrication


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
For an average 185 to 200 pound man, as a matter of more or less accepted scientific fact, .10 BAC is four to five beers in an hour or so. It isn't schit faced and most who drink a little would hardly even consider themselves buzzed at that level of BAC.



I've arrested .28s that didn't consider themselves "buzzed"


.28? SOB.... That's coma level for most everyone.



Had a .37 one night that was coherent enough to tell.me the exact number of beers he had drank.
BTW that was 23


I'm f'kin' impressed.


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Originally Posted by 700LH
in todays world, if you have had one beer your the party at fault, right or wrong has nothing to do with it


Only if one beer puts you over the legal limit


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Originally Posted by 700LH
in todays world, if you have had one beer your the party at fault, right or wrong has nothing to do with it


Not necessarily, and in many cases not at all.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
For an average 185 to 200 pound man, as a matter of more or less accepted scientific fact, .10 BAC is four to five beers in an hour or so. It isn't schit faced and most who drink a little would hardly even consider themselves buzzed at that level of BAC.



I've arrested .28s that didn't consider themselves "buzzed"


.28? SOB.... That's coma level for most everyone.



Had a .37 one night that was coherent enough to tell.me the exact number of beers he had drank.
BTW that was 23


I'm f'kin' impressed.



Drove the exsct speedlimit, or slightly under, used turn signal's and maintained his lane....however, he threw a McDonald's wrapper out the window in front of me


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it was a schitfaced rancher


I can't believe you said that.How many beers does it take to be .104? Ya...4-5 for his weight and they called him by request of deputy Rowland...Wow..What a drunk..

I sure can't get schitfaced on 4-5 beers...



Then maybe you have a drinking problem

Buy .104 is schitfaced


Not very many years ago, .104 BAC would not even qualify for a DUI around here.


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Why didn't this go to the grand jury?


The DA made the call that there wasn't enough evidence to proceed with a prosecution beyond a reasonable doubt. Other than that, all the rest is in the 5300+ pages from the investigation.

Hey, I think the grand jury should have at least been presented the case. Were I the DA, I would have if for no other reason than to cover my ass. If the GJ indicts and a jury acquits, or a judge dismisses, the DAs office is clear. If the GJ no


It wasn't the DA bills, the DAs office is clear. That said, I know a lot of DAs that think doing so is a sell out and a waste of GJ time and resources.

The folks in that area elected the sheriff and the DA. They can elect someone else later, and since no charges were brought the case could be revived (which would not be the situation had it gone to trial and ended in an acquittal).



It wasn't the DA. It was the state attorney General


The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude


Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell


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