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Somebody will give you your's too , bitch.

What is "his", little fella?

I'm all for it. Cops, as they are today, should respond to zero of those calls.

I sincerely hope your kid doesn't choose a permanent career in law enforcement because you are putting some horrendous karma on yourself.




Dave

Dink sure does make people angry.

LMAO.




Clark

Ah, there's where you are wrong, my friend. I have direct and repeated experience that audio and video evidence can kill a frivolous lawsuit quicker than a bought-off judge. And also that knowledge that the camera is always rolling is effective motivation to make it a habit to act professionally.

No - it's not a cure-all, but the camera makes a huge difference.

Not really. People still see what they want to see.

Look at the alton sterling shooting


Then if for some reason your camera doesn't catch something due to positiining (think vehicles, the action very often doesn't happen right in front of the lens) then people are accused of purposefully praking to preclude video capture

After the one deputy getting fired for what was caught on a dash cam, he was sure not to make that mistake twice, coincidence, I don't think so.

That's more the exception than the rule. I'd think that 99% of the time that dash cams / body cams reinforce the cop's story and shut down the lies from drunks/felons and unnecessary force accusations.

To sum this up, Jack is still dead, the cops over reacted to a drunk shooting a rifle.

Curdog and Aces are ordering Micah Johnson shirts and coffee cups off of Zazzle and Mirage is still pissed about living in a trailer with his mom.

That about it?

There are always exceptions. And it depends on the quality of information recorded. But overall, cameras make a difference. The more, the better. IME, video more often keeps things from even getting to court. When faced with the evidence, the guilty or false accuser usually folds.

Then there's the effect on overall professionalism. Those of us with cameras pointed at us 100% of the time tend to act more professionally. That has an added effects of the group being looked upon more favorably.

Virtually every time one of my brothers is in direct conflict with a member of the public, a lawsuit is threatened and/or filed against us. Those used to be hard to defend. Now we win almost all of them. Many are dropped early on. We know that the camera is always rolling, so we make damned sure that the evidence will be in our favor. In other words, we are focused on doing it right.

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Easy to remedy. Yes - more expensive, but worth it.

And this is a point that I think some of you are missing. The more times the accused is vindicated by audio/video evidence, the more widely the whole group are viewed as ethical professionals by the general public (there will always be rabble rousers). The way things are right now, there isn't much trust by a large portion of the public.

Pretty much. And some of us are still afraid of cameras.

That only happens if the media releases the video when the police are exonerated.

They don't.

Maybe you missed it, but no one needs "the media" to release anything these days. Besides - I think we are not far enough into the use of such devices yet to establish any such pattern. If we were, those cameras would have been rolling.

Anyway - you are wrong....

examples

I had to google Zazzle.

And I still think cameras are a waste of money.




Dave

So did I.



We heard all the arguments against them here too. Same with random drug testing. I wish neither were needed, but I'm glad we have both. Much better work environment, now that they're here.

Darn it! I thought he was referring to my retirement check someday.

Dink

For 99% of LEO's, they are.

But 88% of the public want them, apparently. It's a free country, though, so cops that hate them are just as free to find other work as I am free to reject work that requires me getting random drug tests or finger printed and background checked. Not that I have anything to hide, I just object to the intrusion so I find other gigs.