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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
If he continues down the path he's on your "swing states" ain't gonna matter...bank on it.


Keep putting your faith in the left wing mainstream media and you'll continue to be played the fool. Continue to quote MSM national polls, same result. Bank on it.

Again, how'd those Brexit polls work? You keep banking on your polls from the left wing MSM. Hillary appreciates your non-Trump vote. She'll look out for you after the election. Bank on it.


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Dixie Dude has a good plan. I will do my share if H is elected/gets the Presidency. Someone posted it earlier: Stalin said it is not who wins the votes but who counts the votes.

I expect nothing is too low for the D party. If I can, I will shove Trump down their collective throats. The D's can choke on his rhetoric.


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Here is something to consider regarding different polling organizations, it considers "house effects", aka bias, and gives a grade on accuracy. Some pollsters are better than others, there are even some flunkies.

Five-Thirty-Eight Polster Ratings

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FiveThirtyEight’s pollster ratings are calculated by analyzing the historical accuracy and the methodology of each firm’s polls. Accuracy scores account for the type of election, a poll’s sample size, the performance of other polls surveying the same race and other factors. We also calculate measures of statistical bias in the polls.


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538 has been getting crushed as to Trump since last September. They're a one song wonder.


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Originally Posted by isaac
538 has been getting crushed as to Trump since last September. They're a one song wonder.


Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Keep putting your faith in the left wing mainstream media and you'll continue to be played the fool. Continue to quote MSM national polls, same result. Bank on it.


I am guessing that you now count FOX as left wing mainstream media? Fox is seeing Trump as Dead in the Water........Peal those blinders off and see what Trump is doing to the conservative movement.

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Does anyone know how accurate Nate Silver's electoral college predictions were in tbe last two presidential elections?


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There's a High Probability Nate Silver Is Wrong Again About Donald Trump

June 29, 2016

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RUSH: If I've had one person send it to me I've had five people send me this idea that Nate Silver is out predicting that Trump doesn't have a chance to win the presidency. Have you seen this, Snerdley? (interruption) Well, yeah. Let me tell you something: Nate Silver used to be a god in the New York Times, and he's not a pollster. He's a renowned pollster analyst. Meaning he found algorithms and software programs and bots and all kinds of things to analyze all the data in all the polls.

And what he would do is issue percentage for the chances various candidates had to win, and he came to fame in 2012 assuring liberal Democrats all over the world, but particularly in this country, that Romney was going to lose. Whenever there was polling data showing Romney pulling ahead, Nate Silver would come out and say, "No, it's not true," and literally there would be a national sigh of relief. But then Silver started blowing it.

He left the New York Times, went over to ESPN, and has his own FiveThirtyEight blog. He's back now predicting Hillary Clinton has a 79% chance of winning the presidency, compared to Trump's 20%. Now, Silver still has a lot of acolytes out there. He still has a lot of true believers. And they're applauding and they're partying and they're ecstatic, but they are forgetting something crucial. Nate Silver has been wrong about Donald Trump predictions seven times since last June.

"1. June 16, 2015: Why Donald Trump Isn't A Real Candidate." Silver's website said Trump's not a real candidate because "Trump's high name recognition combined with a staggering -32 favorability made him the least-liked presidential candidate of all time," which meant, "'Trump has a better chance of cameoing in another Home Alone movie with Macaulay Culkin -- or playing in the NBA Finals -- than winning the Republican nomination...'" Silver blew it.

"2. July 16, 2015: Two Good Reasons Not To Take The Donald Trump 'Surge' Seriously." So Trump's taking off, Nate Silver comes out with two reasons why everyone should not believe it; dead wrong again.

3. July 20, 2015: Donald Trump Is The World's Greatest Troll Silver finally weighed in with this article, where he described Trump as a 'troll' candidate, who was thriving simply by virtue of the tremendous attention he could receive by insulting everybody," but he was not going to go anywhere. He had no chance to win the nomination.

4. Aug. 6, 2015: Donald Trump's Six Stages of Doom." Obviously wrong. "He pegged Trump's odds of winning the nomination at 2%...

"5. Aug. 11, 2015: Donald Trump Is Winning The Polls, And Losing The Nomination. ... 'Our emphatic prediction is simply that Trump will not win the nomination,' Silver said. 'It's not even clear that he's trying to do so.'

6. Nov. 23, 2015: Dear Media, Stop Freaking Out About Donald Trump's Polls." They don't mean anything; Trump has no chance.

7. Donald Trump Comes Out Of Iowa Looking Like Pat Buchanan -- Silver was quick to pounce after Trump finished second to Ted Cruz in the Iowa caucuses," saying this is as good as it gets. He's been wrong seven times predicting the fate and fortune of Donald Trump.

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RUSH: Eric in Edmore, Michigan. You're next, sir. Great to have you. Hi.

CALLER: Yes. Dittos from Edmore, Michigan, the Potato Capital. You were talking early on about all the polling about how Trump was not gonna win, can't win. It's all irrelevant because he has created his own shift in politics in the way he's done everything. He's done everything his own way.

RUSH: Wait. You mean the polls are irrelevant?

CALLER: The polls are now irrelevant, and even the way campaigns are being run is becoming irrelevant.

RUSH: I see what you mean.

CALLER: That's how he changed everything.

RUSH: Right. Well, again, he's talking about Nate Silver. Nate Silver came out -- wunderkind of liberalism for predicting Obama victory and so forth. Nate Silver has been wrong seven straight times predicting Trump the way he normally does. He analyzes all the polling data, and even factors celebrity endorsements into the way he does his analysis. And he's been wrong on Trump seven times.

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RUSH???

Good God...Rush!!! Too funny

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If Hillary wins we'll continue to lose America at the current pace. If not, we'll continue to lose it a little slower.


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The same stupid shiite from Hillary's Northern C*nt.


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If H-dog wins, the Republican Party will go scorched earth on anyone who looks like a conservative for a long long time. The party elites will consolidate their forces.
Right now the RNC/GOP is working behind the scenes to snuff out any and all conservative candidates around the Country. There is a silent coup' taking place.

True conservatives will have to create their own party - but it won't matter.
Four or eight years of the H-dog will destroy Country for a long long time.

The blame goes to the GOP who betrayed there conservative members.

The victory belongs to the pubic schools who were steadfast in their decades of indoctrination.

WILD CARD - Wikileaks, the FBI on Clinton Cash and the silent voters who do not show up on any polling data.

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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
If H-dog wins, the Republican Party will go scorched earth on anyone who looks like a conservative for a long long time. The party elites will consolidate their forces.
Right now the RNC/GOP is working behind the scenes to snuff out any and all conservative candidates around the Country. There is a silent coup' taking place.

True conservatives will have to create their own party - but it won't matter.
Four or eight years of the H-dog will destroy Country for a long long time.

The blame goes to the GOP who betrayed there conservative members.

The victory belongs to the pubic schools who were steadfast in their decades of indoctrination.

WILD CARD - Wikileaks, the FBI on Clinton Cash and the silent voters who do not show up on any polling data.


Other than the "coup" part, I have no argument. The primary election came down to conservative, establishment and "other". "Other" won by default.


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WILD CARD - Wikileaks, the FBI on Clinton Cash and the silent voters who do not show up on any polling data.


Real possibility! Clinton is a slippery cat and we all know there is plenty out there that could hurt her. You have to give Trump a Tip Of The Hat though! Trump/Clinton took the country to a new place in reshaping the political landscape.

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If Clinton wins, it will be because of all the whiny little biotches whose favorite candidate was not nominated.


Do you mean the ~60% of republican voters who did not vote for trump in the primary? Those whiny little bitches?


Don't sweat it Mog......it's just the "Trumpista's" doing a little advanced planning so they have someone else to blame when Trump looses...

Me.....I'll vote for the childish prick but not because I like or trust him....because he isn't Hillary.....pretty sure Trump will defeat himself long before I get to the ballot box though....


He's our best bet now. Sad isn't it? I wonder how many of that 40% of "republicans" who voted for him have actually ever voted for a republican in a general election, or ever will? It just strikes me a odd that the candidate most likely to lose to clinton won the primary, with 40%.


Was thinking the same thing the other day. What if the DEMs voted for Trump to get him selected as the Republican candidate because he would be the easiest for Hillary to beat? Isn't there quite a few states that have open primaries that anyone can vote in regardless of what party they are registered as?

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Too funny.


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
All you guys who thought and still think Trump was the greatest thing since sliced bread are to blame for Hillary becoming POTUS
This should have been as slam dunk for anyone running against Hillary but Trump phuucked that up but good.


Ummmm...I said that exact same thing the very second Trump was announced.

As I recall, the response from a respected few (on my part) was something like "horse [bleep]."


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Actually, ya'll were first saying Trump wouldn't win the nomination.

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Actually, I was on board with Trump way before any of you way back in 2012. Do the search and look at the threads I started. I believe I was called a wishful dumb ass. But all I needed to do was watch his dumb ass this year and in the first few public appearances knew we were looking at a Madam Potus in the making.

Sorry pards...but we were punked big time!! And now we got NO credible candidate or chosen one. :((

But this thing seems to be so corrupt that I'm now convinced nobody could beat the Dems. Just pathetic what politics have become.

Should have encouraged Tom Selleck. I said that as well.

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Yeah, I guess that's why Trump had over 10000 folks at his Erie Pa rally today while Hilary's crowds are in the hundreds.

Amazes me how folks here are buying into the MSM enemedias polling numbers when the Independent polling entities have it even to within the margin of error. Even the DNC isn't buying it...nor is 70% of the country.




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