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JWP475- I have heard that running 45 Colt in a 454 chamber can be problematic due to carbon build up. I would prefer not to have to buy 454 cases and mess around changing my reloading die settings. one hears lot's of things. main plinking with my 454 is with 45 colt loaded with trailboss. i probably have 500 rounds of that through it. can't ever remember it balking on 454's and i am the worst rifle cleaner you can imagine. once a year on Christmas or new years if the mood strikes me.
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here's an option: ![[Linked Image]](http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n23/jlcpls/guns/DSCF1093.jpg) 45 colt on a SxS shotgun chassis. Could have made the site ramp integral for a scope mount, like I did on the 30-30, but this one will hit fine to 100. who did that work? i have a sxs i would love to turn into a 45-70
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Based on Klikitarik's post, it would appear there is no need for the 454 unless one just really wants it. Of course, his cast bullets were 320 grains, not 335 grains like rofous wants to keep using, and the COAL and nose profile might be a little different. And the Marlin may not be able to handle roufous' load pressures he runs in his Ruger either. Marlin did make some stainless model 1894's but finding one, in 45 Colt no less, might be a lengthy endeavor. Another idea would be to get a blued one and have it coated with something like ROBAR or cerrakote.
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Actually one can load the .45 Colt hot enough to do what needs doing. As I noted earlier, the '92 is stronger than the Marlin. How many 454 Marlins have you seen...?? That's right, None... So, the Rossi could be loaded hotter than what one what want to feed a Marlin. But, I think I'd keep the loads down to where they weren't overtly painful...  Those big thumpers don't need to be traveling at warp speed to knock the stuffing out of about anything...  DF
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My M94 Winchester was purchased 'used' with a recently changed barrel. IT had been taken as a trade-in with a re-chambered 45 Colt> 454 Casull barrel. I don't know what volume of 454s the rifle might have digested, but it checked out fine and has since spit out hundreds of 300+ grain RCBS and Lyman cast bullets while burning 23 grains of W296 with each trigger squeeze. John Taffin has some good stuff on the 45 Colt: http://www.sixguns.com/range/45redhawk.htmLyman also makes a double crimp groove heavy bullet which would probably work in shorter maximum length designs. The nominal weight is 325 grains. I believe mine are a bit more than that. Lyman Mould #452651 325 cast
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here's an option: 45 colt on a SxS shotgun chassis. Could have made the site ramp integral for a scope mount, like I did on the 30-30, but this one will hit fine to 100. who did that work? i have a sxs i would love to turn into a 45-70 With the help of a couple skilled folks for the barrel fitting to the lump, I did.
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here's an option: 45 colt on a SxS shotgun chassis. Could have made the site ramp integral for a scope mount, like I did on the 30-30, but this one will hit fine to 100. who did that work? i have a sxs i would love to turn into a 45-70 With the help of a couple skilled folks for the barrel fitting to the lump, I did. what was the donor? that is a fine weapon.
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Zastava 16ga SxS.
Has a breech fastener and 2 underlugs.
If I did it again, 20 gauge or smaller. <-heed advice
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Haverluk, I take it Stevesgunz did that job for you? Is the metal work coated with something or is it stainless? Appears rather gray in color so I assume it is some coating. Looks nice. And I would want the recoil pad. How tricky would it be to install a scope mount base for a scout type scope on a Rossi 92?
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Haverluk, I take it Stevesgunz did that job for you? Is the metal work coated with something or is it stainless? Appears rather gray in color so I assume it is some coating. Looks nice. And I would want the recoil pad. How tricky would it be to install a scope mount base for a scout type scope on a Rossi 92? The metal is bead blasted stainless. A scout style scope base could easily be installed. The rail for this application cost about $25. Here is the list of work I had done: Action & trigger job XS receiver sight SS ¾ big loop two-tone bead blast premium recoil pad Glass bedding Sling swivels studs custom flush safety plug Stainless mag follower Red HIVIZ sight silver slot blank It's a awesome rifle! I wish I could shoot it more.
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loaded with 300 gr. over max H4227 Like a full tinfoil hat, nobody goes 300 grains over max. 41
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loaded with 300 gr. over max H4227 Like a full tinfoil hat, nobody goes 300 grains over max. 41 Ha! Well max 4227 load for 300 gr. slugs... 😀 Dead 'dillers, gun intact. 4227 evidently has a smooth pressure curve. Hank Williams, Jr reportedly uses 4227 in his vintage SSA's. Seems to be a good choice. DF
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JWP475- I have heard that running 45 Colt in a 454 chamber can be problematic due to carbon build up. I would prefer not to have to buy 454 cases and mess around changing my reloading die settings. I've been doing it for decades with no problem what so ever. To eat a water melon one has to be smarter than the water melon
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JWP475- I have heard that running 45 Colt in a 454 chamber can be problematic due to carbon build up. I would prefer not to have to buy 454 cases and mess around changing my reloading die settings. Just use 454 cases, load to .45 Colt levels for plinking, full loads for business. DF Works perfectly with 45 colt cases, I shoot way more 45 Colt loaded case in my 454's than I do with 454 loads and it is not a problem.
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I could see the very tight Freedom Arms revolvers having the short round ring becoming an issue more than a '92, which by design must have a looser chamber to properly feed. Probably wouldn't even feel a ring.
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I once (still have it) bought a 45 Colt Rossi '92 Cowboy...
20" Oct & CH receiver...sent it to Steve's Guns....
yea its slick...but for the $800+ I have in the Rossi...
I'd much rather have a good ole Marlin JM 45 Colt...
which I have two...much easier to work on/clean & service.....
Also Rossi C/S sucks.......no I don't own any RemLins...
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I could see the very tight Freedom Arms revolvers having the short round ring becoming an issue more than a '92, which by design must have a looser chamber to properly feed. Probably wouldn't even feel a ring.
DF I've never, ever experienced a problem shooting 45 colt +P's in my FA 83's in 454
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I could see the very tight Freedom Arms revolvers having the short round ring becoming an issue more than a '92, which by design must have a looser chamber to properly feed. Probably wouldn't even feel a ring.
DF I've never, ever experienced a problem shooting 45 colt +P's in my FA 83's in 454 Me either in my FA revolver in 454 And I run more .45 colt loads than .454 Casull rounds through my little Rossi 92. Also, my Rossi feeds all bullet designs while my Marlin 45 colt did not.
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I could see the very tight Freedom Arms revolvers having the short round ring becoming an issue more than a '92, which by design must have a looser chamber to properly feed. Probably wouldn't even feel a ring.
DF I've never, ever experienced a problem shooting 45 colt +P's in my FA 83's in 454 Me either in my FA revolver in 454 And I run more .45 colt loads than .454 Casull rounds through my little Rossi 92. Also, my Rossi feeds all bullet designs while my Marlin 45 colt did not. It is complete BS that shooting 45 colts in a 454 chamber is a problem. I have no idea how many rounds would need to be fired without cleaning for a problem to occur, if it is possible. I do not clean mine often and have never ever experienced a problem.
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I shoot a hole lot more of these in my 454 chambered revolvers than 454's. This pistol was acquired in the 80's if it was a real problem it should have showed up by now. ![[Linked Image]](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/jwp475/DSC01627_zps542254dc.jpg) r
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