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tractordata.com will show where the various models were made. I have no knowledge of German tractors. I think all of mine were made in the US but the some of the engines may have come from Mexico. Mine are all old, from a 1952 B to a 1975 4430. Talk to your JD dealer's service department about models to avoid.
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it seems that buying foreign made John Deere products is just another way to approve of losing thousands of American jobs, of helping skew America's balance of trade.
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if buying a very late model tractor of modest size you literally have no choice....they are all made overseas
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John Deer grun. By Joe Diffie
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if buying a very late model tractor of modest size you literally have no choice....they are all made overseas then shame on John Deere.
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Thank you for all of the good replies.
Very useful information.
We actually drove down and looked at the tractor this afternoon. (closest dealer is 45 miles away)
2013 with 4500 hours.
The hours part scared me. 4500 hours on a 10 year old tractor is great, that many on one 3 years old not so much.
Cutting edge on the bucket had been replaced with a bolt on, grapple brackets on both side had been re-welded, one of the 3-point arm(extensions) was welded so it couldn't slide out.
Various plastics pieces were broke/cracked.
And that's the real shame. Price goes up, amount of plastic goes up.
It was a really nice tractor and the dealer is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet but....
It was fairly well used.
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Around here, lots of tractors with quite a few hours were leased to the state to mow road edges. When they come in off lease, they usually put a loader on them and sell them. Some of them still have a little warranty left. My neighbor bought a Case IH like that a few years ago and it was a pretty good tractor. My concern is that every Tom, Dick and Harry has been driving it and they might not care how they treat it.
His new Case IH, Maxxum 125, was made in England. I've put about 150 hours on it hauling big bales and mowing pastures with a 20' brush hog. Other than being an electronic nightmare, it is a good, tough tractor. It has lots of plastic parts, one of which I broke when I ran over a log! My old JD 4430 doesn't have that problem.
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Damn - that's 4 hours a day, EVERY day for 3 years. Well used indeed.
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if buying a very late model tractor of modest size you literally have no choice....they are all made overseas then shame on John Deere. My 2010 CaseIH 70 Farmall was made in Turkey, so shame on CaseIH?
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My brother just bought a 70a. The dealer said no tractor under 150hp is made in the U.S.
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I think the last real Waterloo tractor might be a 7430 Premium. They are 4-5 years older than the German tractor we looked today but are still another $10-20K in price.
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No tractor under 100 hp has been made in the US for a long time....... Maybe they are up to 150 now.
Somewhat related, I bought a GMC Suburban brand new. At 4000 miles the rear end puked. At my local dealer I learned that day that they were made in Mexico when the shop foreman told me....."this happens a lot. Those Mexicans don't know how to set up a rear end".
It was my fault for not knowing, btw. Haven't had a lick of trouble with it since, though.
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A JD dealer told me, back in 1980, that all JD's under a certain hsp (can't remember now) were made in Japan and all JD's over that hsp were made in Germany. Don't know how true it was then or what may or may not have changed since, just saying, that's what a JD dealer told me in 1980.
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Sam, buying tractors is getting harder. The post I put up about the 2640 JD which is 34 years old and made in Germany yielded nothing. By the way I live where they are made in Iowa and would not worry about one made offshore
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The farm I used to manage had a JD 2950 from 1986 that was German. When they closed the farm in 2009, it had something in the neighborhood of 5000 hrs and had given us no problems. It wasn't our biggest but it got a lot of use. No loader work though.
It even survived some dummy (me!) who opened the front cap because he thought it was low on coolant and added some. Trouble was the front cap was the fuel tank, it sat in front of the radiator. Adding antifreeze to diesel fuel on a cold day clogs the fuel filter real quick!
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My brother just bought a 70a. The dealer said no tractor under 150hp is made in the U.S. Bullchit.. My 2015 JD 3039R was built in Georgia.. 39 hp..
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Thank you for all of the good replies.
Very useful information.
We actually drove down and looked at the tractor this afternoon. (closest dealer is 45 miles away)
2013 with 4500 hours.
The hours part scared me. 4500 hours on a 10 year old tractor is great, that many on one 3 years old not so much.
Cutting edge on the bucket had been replaced with a bolt on, grapple brackets on both side had been re-welded, one of the 3-point arm(extensions) was welded so it couldn't slide out.
Various plastics pieces were broke/cracked.
And that's the real shame. Price goes up, amount of plastic goes up.
It was a really nice tractor and the dealer is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet but....
It was fairly well used. I'd say.. Your description raises some red flags with me also.. As another said, it's very possible there's been many operators who seem not to care about protecting the machine from damage.. I hope the price reflects the condition and hours - and then some..
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I had an old Mannheim German JD 2030 Diesel tractor, IIRC it was 60 HP, had a nice JD 175 loader and a JD 709 brush hog, it was a fine little tractor, very handy and dependable for light farm work.
Sold it to a banker buddy of mine 10 years ago, he's still running it.
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I think if looking for a JD loader tractor myself I would look for a 7410/20 or 7510/20 and rebuild as needed or if needed....there's a reason they bring a premium
I don't like the sound of all the welding done on 3 point and loader of the 6140
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I've got an old 1968 5020 with quads on back and a 300 Horse 619 Turbo Diesel with a 16 disc brass pulling clutch in it, talking about black smoke easy fun. ![grin grin](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif)
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