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seems they may have had every right in the world,...



Now a 2 A issue ?

Might occur to the un biased that some of the cops KNEW the guy, from previous encounters.

Calm down,

GTC

The guy is was a convicted felon.

Yup Greg that's the part they are playing down. That information appeared in paragraph 32+ in several major newspapers.

Exactly!!

Guy's,

I've been a member of this site for awhile. .....mostly for the love of handloading and hunting....I know how the ball bounces here........being 'black'....

Had I killed everyone that I thought was a terrorist or wanted to kill me after I told them to put down their AK, SVD, or RPK..I'd be under the prison.

Now put your twist on that!

No twist required. When a cop gives an order, you comply. If everything is hunky dory, all is well. If you don't comply, things will go poorly. This is much worse if you are a felon with an illegal weapon who refuses to follow an order. Is that a difficult concept? Sure, it's a pain in the butt, and riles you, but the cop has a reason to do what he is doing. It is simple. Comply.

Carrying is not brandishing.

Was he brandishing? If so, the police command was not illegal.

The police were there serving a warrant on someone else and saw Mr Scott outside his vehicle with a gun. If they are there serving a warrant and see someone with a handgun, I'd think it's in their best interest to make sure he's wasn't an accomplice or threat to them. Mr Scott then got back in his vehicle with the gun and when police broke the windows he exited the vehicle. He may or may not have pointed the gun at officers at that point. He was told no less than a dozen times to drop the gun. You've got to be some kind of stupid or have a death wish to not comply when cops have weapons drawn screaming to you to drop it.

Sad that it ended in a loss of life but it really sounds as if he gave them no other choice.

It is damn sad. Doesn't matter if the guy was Black , White, Yeller, or Red, HE is the one who decided his own fate, to bad he decided to die that day.

There is a song that Madison Rising performs "Before The Hyphens Came"

Keywords in this song....."We were all Americans before the hyphens came".

Damn sad this song was ever written.

Wife's video shows me absolutely nothing. She makes her
husband out to be brain-damaged.

Are you talking about military duty or a law enforcement officer?

What I'll put on it, twist wise, is that almost every situational shoot that has been like this, would have NEVER started if the idiot that was shot did not start the situation by some illegal act of theirs.

I'm not saying you need to be shot for speeding, but in the end, you are the one that started the [bleep] and I've about no sympathy for you at all.

Just like a drunk getting shot trying to go home to the wrong house. Your fault your problem not mine.

Amazingly enough no one, to this point that I can recall, in my family or my wifes family, have ever had any of these kind of situations happen to us....s

Though it may have something to do with trying best to follow the rules and when "pulled over" following the rest of the common sense rules. And that second part might even be the reason that I have not recieved a ticket in probably 30 years for any traffic violation although I was obviously at fault them.

If you start out with a lower than average I.Q., couple that with quitting school and than add to that, years of abusing drugs and alcohol and you have the makings of a dis orientated, slow to respond individual who is more than likely to make a poor decision.

Where does this notion that police have to piggy back ride every idiot jumping off a ledge come from?

It's become very simple....if you have a gun the cops can shoot you dead. They'll sort it out after you're cold and stiff and your family will get a settlement, the cop may or not be fired or allowed to resign only to be rehired by another agency but in the end you're still dead. You don't even have to point the weapon at them, the mere sight of a gun is enough reason to kill you.

Just ask Jack Yantis.

Was this guy a drunk prick with a known temper too? We already know both their criminal history.

Is that the new standard for execution? If being a drunk prick is reason for the cops to be in a perpetual state of fear then they truly are bigger pusssies than originally known. There will be a lot of dead cops and gay funerals.

What if he gives you an order that is in direct opposition to your Constitutional rights...?

Sometimes that "reason" is nothing more than he's bein' a prick.

Good thing it wasn't that "simple" to those who founded this country.

Nah, just that drunk pricks and those who can't obey simple commands seem to find themselves shot when pointing guns at cops lately and at least three parts of that equation are easily remedied.

Good question.

also, if every cop shot everyone that gave them legal and justifiable reasons to do so there would be a LOT more dead in the street.