After the initial attack a grizzly is more inclined to walk away as long as the perceived threat is neutralized. A black bear that attacks is more likely a predatory response and as mentioned more inclined to eat you. The difference in size is a mute point because an unarmed man can neither outrun nor out fight either.
I'll take a gun over cayenne seasoning spray.
Thinking "moot" might be the word you were looking for...
Tell a certain old cement finisher named Moe about that... he killed a Kodiak bear with a Buck knife.
Moot is it thanks, my mind and my spellcheck don't always concure 😉
I don't doubt it can be done with a Buck knife but don't care to try. Moe might've got'er done with a knife but his brother Curly? The odds aren't in his favor. If that's how it's gotta be then I want some hot sauce as an appetizer.
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The issue isnt whether spray or a firearm would work, but rather if the user would be collected enough to use either properly.
Some people just freeze up when something like this happens.
Seen this happen overseas. Once when we had indirect fire on us and once when we got poked at with direct fire weapons.
It happens. Everyone is different. You might not know what you will do until it happens. Meaning, being effective with whatever deterrent to stop bad things.
Being cool and collected under stressful conditions is a most valuable asset. Hard to learn for some.
thats one asset i've always had.
Me too but in all honesty I am not sure if it is cool under fire of just stupidity.
The issue isnt whether spray or a firearm would work, but rather if the user would be collected enough to use either properly.
Some people just freeze up when something like this happens.
Seen this happen overseas. Once when we had indirect fire on us and once when we got poked at with direct fire weapons.
It happens. Everyone is different. You might not know what you will do until it happens. Meaning, being effective with whatever deterrent to stop bad things.
Being cool and collected under stressful conditions is a most valuable asset. Hard to learn for some.
thats one asset i've always had.
Me too but in all honesty I am not sure if it is cool under fire of just stupidity.
For never seeing a grizzly or setting foot in grizzly country, you 24 hour guys are bad ass.
Just got back from a backpacking trip in Montana. We heard footsteps outside the tent at 3 am. Didn't have a firearm only bear spray. Thinking was [bleep] won't be a good situation if I have to discharge it in the tent:) So unzipped and looked out and whatever it was had departed. 0600 heard the noise again, same result. Would definitely prefer a firearm in that situation. Next day we came back to the tent from a hike and found a mountain goat standing within 20 feet of the tent and I suspect that is what we heard at night. However we had seen two black bears the last half hour of light in the area. This area is thick with Grizzly too so it was an interesting night.
Ugh. A black bear in CA scared the chit out of me late one night. Food was stored well away from the tent and it just had to paw my tent anyway.
After the initial attack a grizzly is more inclined to walk away as long as the perceived threat is neutralized. A black bear that attacks is more likely a predatory response and as mentioned more inclined to eat you. The difference in size is a mute point because an unarmed man can neither outrun nor out fight either.
I'll take a gun over cayenne seasoning spray.
Thinking "moot" might be the word you were looking for...
Tell a certain old cement finisher named Moe about that... he killed a Kodiak bear with a Buck knife.
Moot is it thanks, my mind and my spellcheck don't always concure 😉
I don't doubt it can be done with a Buck knife but don't care to try. Moe might've got'er done with a knife but his brother Curly? The odds aren't in his favor. If that's how it's gotta be then I want some hot sauce as an appetizer.
Something tells me ol Moe might go mute if asked to a rematch, making the point moot.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
There was a problem Grizzly dispatched of in waiparous within the last few weeks. I had drinks with a coworker over Stampede and she showed me video of the bear in her yard. She tells me that the bear had raided a chicken coop a day before the video was taken.
I don't know how much more there is to the story but she did mentioned that this bear had Relocated once previously. I guess it must have been determined that the bear could not be trusted.
Most dogs will get scared and run back to their owner, bringing the bear with them. Bad juju unless it's a trained dog and preferably a Karelian or similar.
The guy in the video had a rifle at the ready and the bear was clearly not charging.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
After the initial attack a grizzly is more inclined to walk away as long as the perceived threat is neutralized. A black bear that attacks is more likely a predatory response and as mentioned more inclined to eat you. The difference in size is a mute point because an unarmed man can neither outrun nor out fight either.
I'll take a gun over cayenne seasoning spray.
Bear spray is not cayenne! Spray yourself with each and then tell me which you like better.
People can talk pretty tough until there is a bear bailing toward them. It is much easier to hit him with pepper spray and it has proven more effective.
The guy that got attacked twice, I would bet, either had spray that was over three years old, or he just THOUGHT he hit her right. Spray would have at least slowed her with proper application of NEW spray.
They should put expiration dates on the spray. I talked to a doctor in Cody, Wyoming and he told me that spray is junk after three years.
Guns are totally illegal in national parks.
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You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it. A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck. Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.
