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Friend came over today with his SAKO A7 .308. He has been practicing for a last minute elk hunt and had been practicing off a bipod... When this happened a couple of days ago he called Beretta and spoke to a CS rep... The rep told him that "A7s were not made to shoot off a bipod". When my friend asked if that warning was in the owners manual the rep said "No, but we don't tell you not to run over the stock with a car and you wouldn't do that either would you?". My friend was so stunned by this answer he didn't say much except how could he get a replacement stock. The rep then transferred him to...Brownells... The rep from Brownells checked and a replacement stock would be $650...for a rifle he bought new for $725. But they had none...and was then told that they had been discontinued by the importer...Beretta. So my friend has ordered a B&C replacement stock that should be here Thursday... Needless to say my this will be my friend's last SAKO... Bob
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No,that should not have happened.
Poor QC IMO.
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BerettaUSA has an absolutely horrible customer service reputation.
From what I can gather, they're "okay" elsewhere in the world, but I have never, ever heard anything good about the USA import outfit.
They seem to think that their obligation to the customer ends at delivery. That's it, nothing else.
I don't buy anydamnthing from 'em.
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No,that should not have happened.
Poor QC IMO. Poor fu cking excuse for a stock, more like it...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Well, its too bad, but bipods have been breaking synthetic stocks for quite some time. Just too much torque and recoil to be sustained by the stock. The learning curve is short, expensive and untimely.
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Beretta CS is fuuking terrible. And replacement parts ridiculously priced. Been trying to tell the Tikka crowd that for 10 years.
Good luck.....
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Not much "meat" there that's for sure. I'd break out the JB Weld and put plenty inside the forend around that post.
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No,that should not have happened.
Poor QC IMO. Poor fu cking excuse for a stock, more like it... Yup,exactly right.
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That reminds me of Kimber customer service I have had....
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Well, its too bad, but bipods have been breaking synthetic stocks for quite some time. Just too much torque and recoil to be sustained by the stock. The learning curve is short, expensive and untimely.
Yep and that looks like a glass filled stock as opposed to a regular tupperware and it still snapped. The minute Beretta turned over their parts department to Brownells is the moment I lost complete interest in buying another Beretta anything. I will buy a Benelli SB since they haven't managed to [bleep] them up.
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Not much "meat" there that's for sure. I'd break out the JB Weld and put plenty inside the forend around that post. Not any less then a run of the mill synthetic. I would fix it and use it on the hunt without the bipod.
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If it woulda been me on the other end of the phone when they said that it would not have been pretty.
Not surprising though. BTDT. Beretta CS is a total goat rope, in every single way. Parts cost a fortune, take forever to get, and you gotta fight with a moron first. Count me out....
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Well, its too bad, but bipods have been breaking synthetic stocks for quite some time. Just too much torque and recoil to be sustained by the stock. The learning curve is short, expensive and untimely. Apparently my plastic Savager stocks don't know they are not suppose to work with a bi-pod.
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Banging away over and over with a bipod on a bench, where the legs pretty much stick and don't move, causes that stud to absorb a lot of the recoil. And tupperware is tupperware. It ain't rocket science........
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'Should it have happened'? Probably not.
But, 6-8" of leverage, on a small portion of the plastic, absorbing the recoil, probably produces a good bit of torque.
Not sure I am overly surprised...
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When my friend asked if that warning was in the owners manual the rep said "No, but we don't tell you to run over the stock with a car and you wouldn't do that either would you?".
With the growing popularity of long range shooting it seems Sako isn't in the game ....
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No,that should not have happened.
Poor QC IMO. ^^^This^^^ Sounds like Beretta needs to take some Customer Service lessons from Ruger. They damn sure want be getting any of my money!
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Sling swivels were designed to hold slings, not bipods..
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ratsmacker - et.al.
I've had zero trouble with my Tikka (Beretta), and I've not heard about their CS being so terrible.......
I will not buy/trade for another Sako/Tikka/Beretta.
This really disappoints me.
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