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How in the hell do you reconcile telling women what they can or cannot do with their health uner the first amendment?
So pregnancy is a health issue? Who knew... Does the government in its current form have any sort of power over peoples health in this country, such as say insurance, and if they do, which party and or candidate do you think supports that? How do you support one but not the other? And to answer your question on how I would tell them, it would be along the same lines as how I tell them to make me a phuqcking sammich.
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more respect for the 4th; not that she's good but Trump is a disaster LMAO. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I'm not a Hillary supporter and will not be voting for her. To your point, on the theory that every cloud has a silver lining, the positives of a Hillary POTUS would be:
-defense of Roe v. Wade;
- more respect for the 4th; not that she's good but Trump is a disaster;
- competence and experience in the job since she has essentially BTDT;
- continuity in domestic and international affairs. Yes I know this is a huge double edged sword since there's so much WRONG with the status quo. I personally would much prefer that the US begin an orderly withdrawal from our position as global cop. However those relationships need to be unwound carefully. Trump is a wrecking ball. Same notion with domestic policies. I'm in my 50's and through caution and personal fiscal conservatism and some luck have myself positioned reasonably well. While there's plenty I'd like to see done differently, again, taking a wrecking ball to the current paradigm seems imprudent.
- not Trump. He's not POTUS material. Too volatile, too petty, too ego-driven, too impulsive, and too lazy or arrogant to prep for the job.
Terminal chronic corrosive cranio-rectal inversion syndrome..
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Dood...Most democrats don't even know they voted. Somebody else does it for them. Talking to kooks is pissing in the wind. Voting or talking ain't gonna change chit If you're gonna live free you're going to have to fight to do so. It was just a lot more clear cut when we had to fight a gov't other than our own to stay a free people. 2 sets of laws Enriched by public influence Yeah they're gonna give that up because you vote?? Lol.
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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... the positives of a Hillary POTUS would be:
- competence and experience in the job since she has essentially BTDT;
The list of incredibly stupid things you've posted is legion here. This however is about the stupidest thing I've ever read and it takes some doing to top you.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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The Constitution does not state there is a separation of church and state. That was in the Federalist Papers, but not official.
As an aside, freedom OF religion does not mean freedom FROM religion.
If it did, you could not (logically) be able to freely practice a religion. Islam presents a bit of a sticky wicket, as it is a religion that demands it also function as a form of government. In view of that, and because it would prevent adherence to the very document that allows it - the Constitution - it is also unconstitutional, because it demands a state religion. None of that is true and much of it is simply ridiculous. The Constitution clearly states the Govt can't promote any religion, and no one can force their religion on someone else, which is what all these pretend christians want to do with abortion laws. There comes a point where you have to accept it's none of your business what others do unless it's affecting you directly.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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The Constitution does not state there is a separation of church and state. That was in the Federalist Papers, but not official.
As an aside, freedom OF religion does not mean freedom FROM religion.
If it did, you could not (logically) be able to freely practice a religion. Islam presents a bit of a sticky wicket, as it is a religion that demands it also function as a form of government. In view of that, and because it would prevent adherence to the very document that allows it - the Constitution - it is also unconstitutional, because it demands a state religion. None of that is true and much of it is simply ridiculous. Benchman is closer to being right. None of what he says is "ridiculous". "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof......." There is no language in the Constitution specifically referencing a separation of church and state. That has been interpreted on a case by case basis
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Ain't none of these dinosaurs needing no gd planned parenthood or any such demonic sh..
Threw the whole conservative movement right off
the tracks.
F'n duds.
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Its my body. I should be allowed to drink and drive.
So, old tree, we should destroy our country for late term abortion, right?
Jeffo, since so many of your dead lib friends vote and others vote more than once, you dont think it would be more fair for Libertarians to vote Trump?
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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... the positives of a Hillary POTUS would be:
- competence and experience in the job since she has essentially BTDT;
The list of incredibly stupid things you've posted is legion here. This however is about the stupidest thing I've ever read and it takes some doing to top you. Yep, she has a lot of experience screwing us over and selling us out. Theres probably none better for that job, including zero. Dimocraps always did go for the best liars and smartest crooks.
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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The womans vote was never here anyway, so it ain't like Republicans threw it away or anything. Healthcare is a big deal. HHHUUUge!
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The Constitution does not state there is a separation of church and state. That was in the Federalist Papers, but not official.
As an aside, freedom OF religion does not mean freedom FROM religion.
If it did, you could not (logically) be able to freely practice a religion. Islam presents a bit of a sticky wicket, as it is a religion that demands it also function as a form of government. In view of that, and because it would prevent adherence to the very document that allows it - the Constitution - it is also unconstitutional, because it demands a state religion. None of that is true and much of it is simply ridiculous. The Constitution clearly states the Govt can't promote any religion, and no one can force their religion on someone else, which is what all these pretend christians want to do with abortion laws. There comes a point where you have to accept it's none of your business what others do unless it's affecting you directly. The Constitution is based on White, European,Christian values. It does not mandate religion of any stripe, but that was the background and reference point of the framers. Sorting everything out, we are discussing abortion. You claim it is a religious issue, and it certainly could be, but there is no need to go any further than law. It is murder. It is illegal to murder. To consider Roe v. Wade a good decision, it is necessary to believe 2 things that are not true. 1) the child inside a woman, is the woman's own body, and 2) the thing inside the woman is not a living human being. Hell, it's even illegal to kill yourself. This is pretty simple. The left touts science as their irrefutable base. They are somehow able to ignore it when it does not suit them.
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The womans vote was never here anyway, so it ain't like Republicans threw it away or anything. Healthcare is a big deal. HHHUUUge! As are the premiums paid by working folk - most dimocraps however, not so much.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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The Constitution does not state there is a separation of church and state. That was in the Federalist Papers, but not official.
As an aside, freedom OF religion does not mean freedom FROM religion.
If it did, you could not (logically) be able to freely practice a religion. Islam presents a bit of a sticky wicket, as it is a religion that demands it also function as a form of government. In view of that, and because it would prevent adherence to the very document that allows it - the Constitution - it is also unconstitutional, because it demands a state religion. None of that is true and much of it is simply ridiculous. The Constitution clearly states the Govt can't promote any religion, and no one can force their religion on someone else, which is what all these pretend christians want to do with abortion laws. There comes a point where you have to accept it's none of your business what others do unless it's affecting you directly. As always, you are full of chit.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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