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Most of the ranches I've hunted allowed one trophy each year. This is a basic 8 my wife shot. This buck was shot on a 36,000 acre low fence ranch. Hasbeen


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shoot what ever makes you happy.


I agree, to an extent. What bothers me is the rancher wouldn't shoot/sell his bull every year.

Thats where I think some management should come into play.

But some don't care about managing, they just care about shooting.

And in some areas there isn't a chance to manage I keep hearing. What I do know is if you kill a young buck that can age and could pass along better genetics at 2.5, then its dead. If you let it walk, it at least has a chance.


The same can be said for does.


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I agree.

Superior, average or inferior genetics are just as likely to be inherited from a doe's lineage.



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hasbeen.....WOW! Gorgeous buck.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Nothing horns me up like a nice 8 point. My biggest 8 to date is 130.


The 'least' impressive measurement in the B&C scoring is spread. It's just air.


I never have quite understood the point of the spread measurement, either. Some buck's antlers simply tend to grow more vertical and others more horizontal.

As to my own likes, overall mass is most impressive.


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May have been my worst mistake. My wife and I hunt together and I let her shoot it. Hard to live with a woman who shoots a 173 6/8 gross buck. Hasbeen


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Originally Posted by joken2
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Nothing horns me up like a nice 8 point. My biggest 8 to date is 130.


The 'least' impressive measurement in the B&C scoring is spread. It's just air.


I never have quite understood the point of the spread measurement, either. Some buck's antlers simply tend to grow more vertical and others more horizontal.

As to my own likes, overall mass is most impressive.




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There are plenty of deer around our camp most years, but we usually don't see anything approaching 120. #1 deer was 165 or thereabouts. There have been maybe a half-dozen taken over 125, and we consider ourselves blessed.

After I took The Big One in 2007, I realized this might be IT. The county holds monsters, and the state record was taken less than 20 miles from us. However, the point here isn't getting all worked up about what could be. We usually know what's going to be around through pre-season scouting, and that gives us an idea what is worth holding out for.

The Trans-Bluegrass of Northern KY, is crawling with deer and crawling with hunters. It's Zone 1, so you can take as many antlerless deer as you want. Most deer I see coming into the processor are no where near 120. On the other hand, we have occasional visits by walking hat racks. Every year or two we bump into a monster in the off-season. The last one came by while I was taking down the camo skirt around the rail on my stand. It was the last day of season, my buck tag was already filled. He just came out and watched me from about 50 yards out.


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We get alot of 130 class whitetails around here.

What does this one score?

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A lot of folks think they see mature bucks. When you see a really big mature buck there is no question. That being said deer are like humans . All old people aren't big and fat some are small and skinny. I've seen some really old bucks that look years younger than they were.
My hunting buddy has been on the Callahan ranch for 7 years. They think the bucks reach their greatest potential at 6 1/2. They try to wait until then. He and his son have killed several deer in the 170's and one in the 180's. They don't kill a trophy every year. Hasbeen


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Not much of a view but 140ish maybe?


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They have some real big bodies up there. Hard to tell from that angle. Hasbeen


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130 class is about what I top out at on my little bit of heaven, though there are some monsters in the area. They just don't tend to wander through my land. If I had more land I'd do more quality management, but I'm a little spot surrounded by out of state hunters from back east that think any 4pt is a monster or locals that poach deer all year long to fill their freezers. So I take does or a nice buck when I can. Gotta have venison.

I self-measured this guy at about 135, he'd have been a monster with another 2 years under his belt.

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Originally Posted by joken2
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by srwshooter
shoot what ever makes you happy.


I agree, to an extent. What bothers me is the rancher wouldn't shoot/sell his bull every year.

Thats where I think some management should come into play.

But some don't care about managing, they just care about shooting.

And in some areas there isn't a chance to manage I keep hearing. What I do know is if you kill a young buck that can age and could pass along better genetics at 2.5, then its dead. If you let it walk, it at least has a chance.


The same can be said for does.


^^^ This ^^^

I agree.

Superior, average or inferior genetics are just as likely to be inherited from a doe's lineage.




I have not way basically, to know about the doe part. I have a way to know about the buck part.

Why not control at least what you can..... instead of just ignoring the whole thing.

Here I have the ability to follow what does produce what bucks basically but thats a rare thing and it takes a lot of note taking and having cameras out all year.


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Hasbeen, That's a very nice deer your wife shot. I'll bet that tickled you big time. Rio7

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A hunter killed this buck on my property.

What do you think it scored?

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Another buck from my property....

What would he score? Would you shoot him?

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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
A hunter killed this buck on my property.

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160+, gross.


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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Another buck from my property....

What would he score? Would you shoot him?

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No clue how to score that one. Shoot him.


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