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I'm of the opinion that during rut Whitetail bucks can often travel over a relatively large area, especially once the shooting starts. We never knew our two largest bucks existed anywhere around the property we hunted prior to killing them. About ten years back a buck was trapped and tagged just prior to the rut at Swan Lake Wildlife Area at Sumner, Missouri. Said buck was hit/killed by a truck three days later in the city limits of Kansas City.....107 miles west of Sumner!!
Even birds know not to land downwind!
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Campfire Kahuna
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A lot of folks think they see mature bucks. When you see a really big mature buck there is no question. That being said deer are like humans . All old people aren't big and fat some are small and skinny. I've seen some really old bucks that look years younger than they were. My hunting buddy has been on the Callahan ranch for 7 years. They think the bucks reach their greatest potential at 6 1/2. They try to wait until then. He and his son have killed several deer in the 170's and one in the 180's. They don't kill a trophy every year. Hasbeen What folks don't understand either, generally, you have to learn your deer and your area. The best age here is 6.5 or even 7.5 sometimes... depends on the year too, but where we hunt in the hill country, often a 4.5 may score as well as he ever will. He may get more mass or longer points, but he might loose length and so on. For sure at 6.5 and over, they are going downhill. Takes a lot of work and years to try to figure out whats best. This year a newer neighbor told my boss not to shoot the 3.5 year old 11 point, thats actually 4.5 I"m pretty sure. He needs a year.. which means my boss will shoot him likely. I've had many chances to shoot him, but I won't... And I'll just run the risk that he doesn't cross paths with my boss. And if he does I"ll say congrats. Callahagn is the only place I've ever seen 2 things. A typical 7x7 14 point whitetail buck. And shot a pig the size of a VW... well lets just say 600 plus pounds, unfortunately her shoats pushed her so hard, that we never could figure the trail out an dlost her... but they had a couple huge ones in pens... and compared to them... wow. Wish I owned 5000 acres in there... and now that the father died its even more about only the money...Tried to hook my buddy up with Amanda.. imght have been set by about now....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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What do you think this one scores??? My WAG is he's just too froggy to call but I'd say he has a 160-165 class main frame(gross) as a 10 point....add more for the NT stuff. Who cares.... he's is one of those bucks you don't size up; you just shoot.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Not sure the above buck is old enough to shoot? At least his shape, in our area, would notate 1-2 more years.
Score wise, thats easy. Bang.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Campfire Tracker
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Since a lot of 8 pointers are being discussed, I'll show you a nice one. He's my best 8 point. Nets 159 2/8" B&C. Dressed at 253#.
You only live once, but...if you do it right, once is enough.
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Campfire Ranger
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Not much for spread to this guy - just a basket rack.
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Almost 130", See how great AIR is.
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Almost 130", See how great AIR is. That's still a lot of digits for a sixer...
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I deer hunted for 13 years before I killed my first buck. The population was low back then and we had a one deer bag limit back then. My first buck, 130 1/8".
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What would this score? Or this one? How about this?
"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan
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Score?
"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan
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I would love to cull that Dink...He needs to be taken out of the gene pool..... This one is pushing 130" I believe. OBTW he will exceed 250lbs live weight as well.
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This one is pushing 130" I believe. OBTW he will exceed 250lbs live weight as well. That is a beautiful deer! I would probably stop hunting if I ever was fortunate enough to harvest one like this. How could you improve on that?!
Welcome to TN - patron state of shootin’ stuff
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Almost 130", See how great AIR is. I'd happily shoot that thing pretty distinctive rack.
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Somebody sold some of yall some stretchy tape measures.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Campfire Tracker
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Tom Cruise uses tape measures for other things.... Somebody sold some of yall some stretchy tape measures.
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
Note to self: Never ask an old Fogey how he is doing today. Revised note to self: Keep it short when someone asks how I am doing.
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My best local buck taken in 1981 about 2-1/2 miles from home. He is the 11th biggest buck ever taken in Clare County per Commerative Bucks of Michigan. He was scored at 139 pts.
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Barry,
The chest and shoulders of a fully mature buck can be so full and deep as to make the front legs look too short.
The stomach may sag slightly, with a waistline level with or lower than the chest. Eventually, an old buck shows a full-blown potbelly.
A mature buck’s legs appear either well proportioned to the body or a little short. Tarsal glands become very large and dark during the rut.
Full, rounded, even a little chunky, this buck’s face has a deep profile. A convex—or Roman—nose is common.
Much wider than the face, the neck here can seem almost unnaturally thick during the rut. At its base, it blends in seamlessly with the chest and shoulders.
So the key to shooting mature deer is to be able to hunt where there are mature deer. And that's difficult to do.
I can take a selfie in my boxers to help illustrate, s'il vous plait...
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Not much for spread to this guy - just a basket rack. Looks like the Favre days treated you good That's a nice one!
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Still the oldest buck I've ever killed. Taxi said all he could tell me was the deer was older than 6.5 years. Whopping 130" Do you know how much this one weighed?
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