Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Which would you choose 300 wsm or 7mm rem mag for elk

Anybody willing to give odds whether this thread will last as long as the .300 Weatherby thread?

I don't like the looks of the Short Fat cartridges either.

That's the only reason I like the 6mm Rem better than 243.

Jerry

I haven't given my preference because--I haven't hunted Elk YET. Given that...

I have 2, 7 RMs and 1 300 WM. They are all more than accurate enuff for deer much for Elk. I've had several 7 RMs and...

I loaded most of them at "Hagel PSI" <grin> and even at that I never had 1 round extrude brass in the bolt face OR blow a primer.

I have NO rational reason for this but I've always had a thing for the 300 WM. The one I have now is at least my 4th or 5th.

So my preference is NOT among the choices--300 WM AND in my 70 Black Shadow.

Jerry

Gee, I hadn't seen that. I better go find it.

The 7 Rem Mag.

Why do I have to use an Accubond? This a trick question?

I heard the same thing from a couple drunks on a South Texas deer lease once. SMH

A Qualifier:

I've never had a blown primer IN 7 RM.

Over all the years I had 2 blown primers-TOTAL- both in 270 Win using H 450 with Hornady Vol II load 60 grs.

However BOTH were using different lots of powder.

Jerry

I decided I'm going to split the difference... 7mm WSM

Will a 30-30 kill an elk?

It was just an example.

I shot a couple 7 mags yesterday. A Sako Finnbear and a Kleinguenther. It's hard to beat the killing power of a 7 mag from a cartridge with so little recoil.

That's precisely why it was invented.

Now Bob & hanco DON'T ya'll know the 7 mags are...

dreaded long actions and

nightmare 'belted' cases? sheesh. horror horror.

jwall I don't know how we have endured the nightmare.

Yes - the 7mm 160 has a higher SD

I know....

Here's a 160 that penetrated well for a pretty long ways; but it isn't an AB. Wish I could post a recovered 160 NPT but I never caught one.

Bob,

I've recovered a couple of 160 7mm Partitions, but neither was shot from a 7mm Remington Magnum. One was from a 7mm Weatherby, the result of an angling-away shot on a 6-point bull elk at about 150 yards. Put the bullet in the left rear ribs and found it in the right shoulder, retaining 64% of its original weight.

The other was shot from a 7x57 at a muzzle velocity just under 2700 fps. The animal was an Alberta mule deer with a body about the size of a young cow elk (we got 130 pounds of boned meat), at around 275 yards. The buck was quartering to me and I put the bullet into the near shoulder. It missed any bone and ended up at the rear of the ribcage on the other side, retaining 90% of its weight. The modest muzzle velocity and not hitting any bone definitely contributed to the weight retention, since almost all the front core was still there, though the bullet mushroomed nicely. (As a matter of fact I believe that's the second-highest weight retention I've ever seen from a Partition, though have had several .338-.416 caliber Partitions retain 85-89%. The highest retention was a 400-grain from a .416 Rigby that retained 95% of its weight, after a quartering-away shot on a water buffalo.)

Along with the 7x57 and 7mm Weatherby, have also used 7mm 160's out of the .280 Remington, but those are the only two that stayed inside--and the other animals also included really big-bodied mule deer, caribou and elk.

John I always say I never recovered one but I actually did...I just keep forgetting.

It deflected on its way to a Manitoba buck,hit him sideways in the liver. He went 150 yards at first leaving little blood but after 75 yards started to leak. The bullet spun out both front and rear cores and all I had was this jacket with the Partition in the middle.

It sounds like from what you've seen they follow the usual Partition script. It seems on most game we recover the heavier Partitions with about the same frequency I see guys recover Barnes bullets? (Im asking since I never used a Barnes on anything).

I am still surprised I have to recovered more 160's since I have used the bullet quite a bit. I maybe need to shoot some more elk...

Actually, I've recovered a higher percentage of Barnes (and similar) bullets that Partitions--but on average have tended to use somewhat lighter Barnes etc. than Partitions for the same game. Haven't analyzed it any closer than that, but do know the percentage of recovered Partitions is low, well under 20% if I recall correctly.

I also had one Partition go in sideways, a 250-grain .338 that hit a tiny thornbranch, not nearly as thick as my little finger, just in front of an eland bull. In fact the branch was so close to the eland the bullet actually slapped it against the eland's hide, leaving an interesting little pattern in the hair. But the shot was placed well, right in the angle behind the shoulder, and would have gone through the heart if it hadn't gone in so perfectly sideways it cut a silhouette of a 250 Partition in the hide. In fact we saw dust fly right there, and after the bull took one jump and disappeared behind some tall brush, the PH turned and shook my hand. We waited a few minutes and took up the trail, finding the bull standing, head low, at most 100 yards away. Shot again and the eland collapsed right there (that bullet went on through) and only when we walked up did we see the interesting entrance hole from the first one. Never did find the first bullet, so dunno what happened after it landed!

ive havent recovered a 160 accubond from 11 big game animals, 7 mulies 4 elk, from 160 yards to 834 yards

starting velocity of 3113 out of a 7mm rem mag,,, its my go to load,,,