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A friend brought up a good point. Why should the outgoing President have full and unlimited power in his outgoing days? With Obutthead we're seeing the damage possible by a vindictive little man, so why aren't there limits on his power after the election?

Sure national security, and all that, but why not limit him to essentials only?

A couple thoughts-

1) If he had plans of wreaking havoc at the end or creating a "legacy" with frivolous appointments or locking up land he truly cares nothing about to satisfy his ego, he'd have to do it before the election. This would reveal his and his parties intentions in time for American voters to be fully informed by the time of the election.

2) the American people have spoken and want the President gone, (or in this case he is mandated to go) so why should he be able to ram his agenda down our throats after we've given him his marching orders? Why wait so long between the election and his departure? Give him 2 weeks, 1 week, or buy him a bus ticket to Hawaii tonight for all I care, but get him out of power before he can do any damage.


Since it would seem reasonable that some time may be required for a transition, mostly on the part of the President elect, why not severely limit the outgoing Presidents power to avoid the fiasco we see with O-[bleep]?

It's a very compelling idea.



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Why should any outgoing President have the power to "leave a legacy" in the last few days of his presidency?


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At some point, the power of a president has to disappear. Jan 20 has been set as that date. Until that day, the president is still president, not a diminished president. This system gives us a full time president at all times. A POS like Obama is highly unusual. Normally the outgoing president is a real man who honors his responsibilities.

At this point, Trump has not been certified as the president-elect. That will happen on Jan 6 when congress counts the electoral votes. We know the results of the election but it's not official until congress certifies it on the 6th.


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He has the power to do whatever he wants because he knows Americans won't drag him out on the lawn and lynch him.

In yesteryear, they were never too sure about that because we had patriots willing to do such things.


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Never had an Anti-America president before.


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Originally Posted by poboy
Never had an Anti-America president before.


That's exactly what it boils down to.


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Originally Posted by poboy
Never had an Anti-America president before.


That's exactly what it boils down to.


Which is why there should be checks in place. We are at a time in history where communists have usurped our govt. By importing voters, they are literally taking over our govt. If Hillary had been elected, our country would have fallen, while we do what, talk about it on the internet?

The populace is getting increasingly disconnected from reality in this country due to a lack of adversity that might otherwise unite them. I fear the return of tyrannical govt with a vengeance after DT leaves office. If there are any safeguards needed, the next four years is the time to get them in place.


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Originally Posted by poboy
Never had an Anti-America president before.


Wilson was a Globalist, and sacrificed much after WWI for his Utopian League of Nations.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
He has the power to do whatever he wants because he knows Americans won't drag him out on the lawn and lynch him.

In yesteryear, they were never too sure about that because we had patriots willing to do such things.


and in fact, only a few times has barack been called out at all. Couple of vetoes over turned, but only I believe two. Everything else he has wanted to do in his screwing of America, has been accomplished with the full approval and connivance of the GOP majority in Congress.
His real legacy is that he has presided over the most fissiparous administration in our long history.


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A new word even for me, Sam. Thanks!


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Excellent word, Sam! grin

As to the OP, don't forget that this POS is an extreme narcissist. His ego forbids his looking at the full consequences of his actions.

We need to keep pounding the message that this is what the Democratic party is all about. We need to make sure they are so wounded as a political party that they put themselves out of business.

They process problems on an emotional level, just as a hormonal 14 year old does. This is why they are vindictive, irrational, and petty. Unfortunately, they have been given power far beyond their reasoning abilities.

Remember Harry Reid changing the Senate rules to allow a simple majority (the nuclear option)? That is coming back to bite them big time.

"O"'s temper tantrum lame duck actions are going to hurt all of us as a people, not just conservatives.

McCain and the rest of the old Republican guard are part and parcel of "O"'s "legacy" and also need to be shut down, hard.

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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Excellent word, Sam! grin

As to the OP, don't forget that this POS is an extreme narcissist. His ego forbids his looking at the full consequences of his actions.

We need to keep pounding the message that this is what the Democratic party is all about. We need to make sure they are so wounded as a political party that they put themselves out of business.

They process problems on an emotional level, just as a hormonal 14 year old does. This is why they are vindictive, irrational, and petty. Unfortunately, they have been given power far beyond their reasoning abilities.

Remember Harry Reid changing the Senate rules to allow a simple majority (the nuclear option)? That is coming back to bite them big time.

"O"'s temper tantrum lame duck actions are going to hurt all of us as a people, not just conservatives.

McCain and the rest of the old Republican guard are part and parcel of "O"'s "legacy" and also need to be shut down, hard.

Ed


I appreciate your insight too-many-letters Ed. The temper tantrum is going unchecked right now, wish it could be stopped. Extreme cases is exactly what you need the reduced powers for. "Normal" people wouldn't abuse their position so normally we don't have to think about it. This isn't a normal situation and it's hurting us, so why not have some kind of check in place?


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Maybe a rating system for a President. Point system giving points when he's in agreement with the majority of legislators, deduct points when he's not. Number of points determines power level he's given. Would create some unity in those that govern and legislators would exercise some control.

Just thinking out loud. Clearly when we have a president this far out in left field we can't just let him run wild. I guess it boils down to our representatives not reeling him in like they were supposed to, so they're the one's that really let us down.


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This guy is going out using his pen and a phone and EO's to screw up the Country as much as possible.
He is actually contributing to his "legacy" that will be heralded as one of the worst.


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Something else to always remember when dealing with Dems;

This fissiparous (thanks again, Sam grin ) behavior is deliberate. According to the communist/socialist rule book, you must first destroy the existing society in order to put the communist/socialist society in place.

You have to destroy the very threads that hold those unwanted societies together, pit person against person on such a visceral level that they tear themselves apart. Class warfare, ethnic warfare, religious warfare, etc., all fomented by a basic human fault, envy.

Socialism is a relatively new phenomenon in human history. It was borne out of the French Revolution and has festered since then.

The only thing that will defeat socialism/communism is the same human fault that they are using to foment this destruction - envy.

Here's a bright spot; More "liberals" are seeking firearms and training as a result of Trump's election in the fear of their way of life being destroyed and they are coming to the realization that the Second Amendment is their only hope against a tyrannical government

Kinda ironic, eh? laugh

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Is it too late to impeach the magic negro ?

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Is it too late to impeach the magic negro ?


Yup. Proceedings wouldn't get started until the new Congress begins and "O" will be long gone from the White House by then.

Still doesn't mean he couldn't be tried for Treason and other High Crimes, though.

Former Presidents can't pardon anyone. laugh

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"Extreme cases" and "abnormal situations" are precisely why lame-duck Presidential powers should NOT be limited.

Any number of unforeseen events from natural disasters to a sneak attack by a foreign power might happen in that 2½ month period between election and inauguration. Hobble the still sitting President because of one bad apple and you forever limit what tools his successors have available.

Bad, bad idea.

Here's a far better plan: stop electing socialist, fissiparous*, megalomaniac narcissists to the office of President.


* Thanks again, Sam.


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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
"Extreme cases" and "abnormal situations" are precisely why lame-duck Presidential powers should NOT be limited.

Any number of unforeseen events from natural disasters to a sneak attack by a foreign power might happen in that 2½ month period between election and inauguration. Hobble the still sitting President because of one bad apple and you forever limit what tools his successors have available.

Bad, bad idea.

Here's a far better plan: stop electing socialist, fissiparous*, megalomaniac narcissists to the office of President.


* Thanks again, Sam.


Rocky, look in the OP, all essential powers would have to be maintained of course. I'm specifically referring to limiting his legacy building and superfluous powers.


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