Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles There is more difference in the barrel, brass, and shooter than between the 260 and Creed

For those of us (and they exist) who think owning a specific chambering is the key to success.

As stated the difference between a Creedmoor, and the 260 in terms of performance is less that that of a factory vs. a match grade barrel, bad or good brass, and of course shooting skills.

This is the only thing I have seen said in the this vs. that threads, and it should be said.
And now it has.

For those of us (and they exist) who think owning a specific chambering is the key to success.
As stated the difference between a Creedmoor, and the 260 in terms of performance is less that that of a factory vs. a match grade barrel, bad or good brass, and of course shooting skills.
This is the only thing I have seen said in the this vs. that threads, and it should be said.
And now it has.

For those of us (and they exist) who think owning a specific chambering is the key to success.

As stated the difference between a Creedmoor, and the 260 in terms of performance is less that that of a factory vs. a match grade barrel, bad or good brass, and of course shooting skills.

This is the only thing I have seen said in the this vs. that threads, and it should be said.
And now it has.

For those of us (and they exist) who think owning a specific chambering is the key to success.

As stated the difference between a Creedmoor, and the 260 in terms of performance is less that that of a factory vs. a match grade barrel, bad or good brass, and of course shooting skills.

This is the only thing I have seen said in the this vs. that threads, and it should be said.
And now it has.

For those of us (and they exist) who think owning a specific chambering is the key to success.

As stated the difference between a Creedmoor, and the 260 in terms of performance is less that that of a factory vs. a match grade barrel, bad or good brass, and of course shooting skills.

This is the only thing I have seen said in the this vs. that threads, and it should be said.
And now it has.

Ladies and Gentleman:

This is what utter phuqqing boredom looks like.


Thank you,

16 Bore(d)

Trystan - Bench rest, hunting, & both ... doesn't matter -

There are also some of us who understand external ballistics are what they are (they don't care what they were fired from).

Aalf - Yep I forgot the 6.5x47... all of these are peas in the same pod.

Like I said - A Good barrel vs. a factory barrel makes a bigger difference than picking any one of these, as does the shooters skills, and the same can be said about good loads and brass.

Apparently only "Loonie poohbahs" already have knowledge of this, so when they see people go "ooowww" it's a creedmoor, for the most part the better side of us tend to say just keep quiet on those threads and let the "discussion" roll and play thier role. This thread is about, what's the deeper truth when it really comes down to it.

I went 260 once the Lapua Brass for the 260 came out, because I reload...If I hadn't I may have gone with the Creed because hornady has some darn good off the shelf ammo. I like the 260 having a bit more velocity, and room in the case (due to my experience with the 300WSM).

Also I'm getting a Krieger Barrel put on my 260 by an extremely good smith... so it comes down to the shooter.

Cartridges Are More Alike Than Different... the same can't be said of shooters.

I have a spreadsheet I monkied with that compares about 80-100 loads in regards to drop/drift/velocity/energy to 500 yards, and that's pretty much the truth. Don't have a place to shoot any further or need to, so it really doesn't matter anyway. To me.

Interesting from a standpoint of numbers and statistics. Sorted by energy, the overlap in cartridges is pretty wild, as is the "gains".

For instance, a 1.0 BC at 3,000 FPS is still going to have 8" of drift at 10 MPH at 500. Considering that load doesn't exist (that I know off) a 162/7mm adds a mere 5" to that.

Somehow that's how my schit got whittled down to a 223, 7RM, and an old standby, hand me down 270.

Moral of my sorry story: Hard way to figure out that two things REALLY matter; not much and very little.

Anyway, talk about 16 Bore(d).....

As a hunter who is now pushing almost 80 years of age, 18 days to go, I am of the opinion that you have made the full circle to where one aquires true wisdom rather than percieved wisdom

Most hunters I know eventually get there. The only question is, how long will it take? By my observations for most its aquired in there late 40s to early 50s

Trystan