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I'm having a creedmoor built. Going to top it with nightforce shv 4-14x50 f1. It comes in mil or moa. I have no experience with either. Call me a dumbass. That's fine. Only thing I've ever used is the rapid-z. For my hunting in MS, 200-300 yards is max. But I'd like to target shoot further. For a newbie. Mil or moa?

Thanks.

Six of one half dozen of another.

If you are not schooled in one or the other go Mils, better and simpler.

They both work and I use both.

Both work but the market is trending towards MRAD. I prefer mil adjustments when I have the option.

dude are you trying to kick an ant pile?

I'm your huckleberry. I'm just asking. Either you have an answer or not.

Either one. Not an answer but an opinion.

Both work, but MRAD is more intuitive.

Mil for me, given the choice.

This is kind of like a metric vs imperial units question. Millimeters and kilograms are more logical given the orders of ten, but if you grew up with feet and pounds, it's harder to accept the change, at least for me.

I do have one mil scope and I like it.

As stated both work. I like mils much better. Its faster. With moa, you have to take your total number of clicks and divide by 4. (4 clicks per 1 moa) That takes a little longer,and allow for a possible math mistake, if you are in a hurry. With mils its is easier. As an example, 11 clicks is 1.1 mils, 23 clicks is 2.3mils ect. No dividing. Simply turn to 2.3 on your turret, and you are ready to go. If starting new,mils is the way I would go. Good luck.

You are doing it wrong with either system if you are thinking in clicks.

Yep.

To keep it simple I want the reticle and the turret to both be the same format, mils for me.

just trying to explain it on a basic easy to understand level to someone who hasn't dealt with either.

thanks. I need it basic.

Still there shouldn't be a need for division. If your scope is MOA make the drop chart that way too. If it says put on xxx MOA just dial in xxx MOA.

As a side note, my geovids give me mil drop info in clicks,which I then dial in mils. This system has thus far been very quick,and very precise.

I know this sounds funny, but don't make drop charts in terms of drop. Set them up in terms of angular correction, whether the measurement is in milliradians or minutes of angle it works the same.

good point. I helpi g a new guy understand the difference between the two. When I shot with moa, I did precisely this as well.

I respectfully submit that introducing clicks and their associated actual drop to the situation actually complicates things for a naive person. If my scope came from Venus and had units of peedwiddles of angle, I'd just make the chart in peedwiddles and dial directly.