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Hornady's info on the 143 ELD-X Hornady's 143 ELD-X Info ------------------------------------------------------------ RE: The 6.5mm LRABs The new Hornady bullets are certainly getting a lot of good press, but don't forget about the 129LRAB. BC was tested by Litz at .550 or so and they're light enough to make good speeds. 129 Advertised G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.561 G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.285 142 Advertised G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.719 G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.320 Thank JPro. Got to thinking about that and found some good discussion here. 14 grains less and all the goods. That alf guy can sure shoot. LRHunting forum link. 142 ABLR Info
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Anyone try Hunter, H100V or maybe Superformance (cheap), with 140s+? I've used a decent amount of Hunter in the Creedmoor. It works well with 140s, though I prefer Re-17 over it for that. I've had very good results with a mild charge of Hunter under the 120 & 123 Lapuas, but 39.5 grains of Accurate 4064 (another mild to mid load) has been positively astonishingly good with them. Darkker has loaded quite a bit of Superformance in the Creedmoor. I have a pound or two of it, but haven't tried to work up my own load for the Creedmoor with it.
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I played with 125 Partitions using RL17 and RL16. A max of 44.5 resulted in 2911/.8" for RL17 and 2848/1.3" for RL16. Not much of a test yet, single three shot groups at 44 and 44.5. but RL17 continues to shine for me.
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Thanks. I ended up with a bunch of the Nosler 140 CCs and tried five powders in hand. So far so good with IMR4451 but need to confirm. RL17 and H4350 (which I have very little off) did just well but the 4451 edged out the 17, or so it seemed. Not fast, about 2650. Hoping they blem a bunch of 129 ABLR as it really seems ideal for the cartridge as was sugested earlier. I'll look that way for hunting loads which I don't need for many long months. I did get some 150 27's and 210 30's to try and like the 'looks' of them FWIW.. Anyone try Hunter, H100V or maybe Superformance (cheap), with 140s+? I've used a decent amount of Hunter in the Creedmoor. It works well with 140s, though I prefer Re-17 over it for that. I've had very good results with a mild charge of Hunter under the 120 & 123 Lapuas, but 39.5 grains of Accurate 4064 (another mild to mid load) has been positively astonishingly good with them. Darkker has loaded quite a bit of Superformance in the Creedmoor. I have a pound or two of it, but haven't tried to work up my own load for the Creedmoor with it.
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Saw the 129 ABLR on sale for $39.99 at Graf's.
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Tried the 125 Partition with H4350 and the 140 ELD-M with RL16. Only used two powder weights for each.
125 Partition shot 1.1" for both 44 and 44.5 with velocities of 2790 and 2804 respectively. RL17 was both faster and grouped a bit better.
The 140 ELD-M was shot with 43.5 and 44 RL16. Two shots with 43.5 were clocked at 2727 and 2721. The three shot group was .6". The RL17 groups a bit better, but is almost 100fps slower where it groups well. I will continue to play with RL16.
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Anybody loading the 136 scenars? LGS had some. I have some imr4350,h4350 and rl17 on hand.
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Anyone try some IMR4451 and the 129 ABLR? I tried a few charges today and like the results. Thinking of trying a ladder test - though I've sworn it off before.
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I had a chance to shoot some 140 ELD Ms with RL16 and RL 17 in cooler temps (12 deg). Ammo set out all night.
43.5gn RL16 2742/2749. Was a 2725 avg at 70 deg.
41.5 RL17 was 2578/2595. Averages 2630 in 70 deg (accuracy load)
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100 gr. a-max ,41.8 gas. cfe223 ,runs around 3170 in my savage,fed.match primer,praise dogs don't like it at all,extremely accurate.Had a Lee collet die made up for the creedmore ,it was worth the money and creates really accurate ammo.
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140 gr Accubond and 41/42 gr H4350 = DRT
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My high vel accuracy hunting load : 40g HV100 under 140gr Nosler Accubond. Shoots 1/2-3/4" @ 2700 fps out of stock Savage model 16.
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Is the creedmoor close enough to 250 AI to start out at low end loads for it?
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Started experimenting with 140 Partitions and RL16. No data for that specific bullet, but a handful of other 140/142 bullets gave me an idea of where to start. I only ran one of each through chrono as I don't like to have the magnetospeed attached when shooting groups. But here's what resulted. 41.5 - 2665 42 - 2685 42.7 - 2728 43 - 2770 43.3 - 2778 Groups at 43 and 43.3 were .51" and .43" respectively. I think that's a fine hunting load!
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Thanks for sharing! How full were the cases? 16 looks bulkier than 17, which I think is my favorite Creedmoor powder, and is never compressed (for me?). QL makes it look like 16 will be compressed with the 120-class bullets, and _may_ be compressed with 140 class, depending.
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RL16 fills it up a little more, but not enough to be an issue. Here is 44gn of each looks like.
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24" 8" twist Brux 130g Nosler accubond, Barnes 127g Long range 41.0g of win 760 cci 250 Hornady brass, fired many times shoots less than 3/8" groups 3130 fps
3180 is a safe max working load; groups opens just a smidge
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Thanks, prm. Looks like the fill is a little greater/higher with 16. Is that about at the bottom of the neck? (sorry, I think I must have walleyevision today) Also seems pretty similar to the H4350 fill. I don't use that powder, but I remember it leaving me a bit less room than 17.
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24" 8" twist Brux 130g Nosler accubond, Barnes 127g Long range 41.0g of win 760 cci 250 Hornady brass, fired many times shoots less than 3/8" groups 3130 fps
3180 is a safe max working load; groups opens just a smidge Velocity seems very high to me, for that bullet/charge weight. Nosler data shows 2900 fps as a realistic expectation, fwiw.
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