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Trump halts hiring of federal workers, freezes pay raises


Washington Post


President Trump issued executive orders Monday freezing federal hiring. The hiring freeze excludes national security employees.

A hiring freeze was included in the Trump presidential campaign’s “Contract with the American Voter.” It was the second of six measures “to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, D.C.” and part of his “100-day action plan to Make America Great Again.”

The plan excludes the “military, public safety, and public health.”

Earlier this month, The Washington Post reported that the Obama administration was accelerating hiring to get employees in place before Trump took over. But


individuals hired, but who have not yet started working, still could be affected by a freeze.

In an August 1981 decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in National Treasury Employees Union v. Ronald Reagan, the court ruled that anyone who had been appointed after Election Day, but had not yet started work, were affected by the retroactive freeze because they had not actually become federal employees. It found that a small number of workers among the plaintiff group, however, had begun to perform official work functions and therefore could make a claim based on the standard civil service protections that federal employees hold.

In 1982, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) examined hiring freezes imposed by former presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan and determined that was not an effective strategy.

Hiring freezes have “little effect on Federal employment levels,” the GAO said. The report said the freezes “disrupted agency operations, and in some cases, increased costs to the Government.”

Staff writer Juliet Eilperin contributed to this story.

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Next thing you hear will be "the sky is falling".


Anybody know if this will affect inter-agency transfers as well as new hires?

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Give 1/2 of the government workers a job building and repairing roads and bridges at that pay rate.

If they don't want that... Adios!

I thought a third of them were going to quit if he was elected. Felt that was a good start.

Another promise kept, Yep he's a democrat in disguise.......

Cut half of them, wonder how many Obama people are out looking for work??

Good.

after doing that, he needs to tell the remainder, "concentrate on what adds value for the citizens. Help me get rid of everything else"

Some percentage of Federal workers retire every year. Guessing it might be 3-5%. Keep the freeze in place until total federal employment is down 20-30%.

even a liberal should be able to recognize that the Federal Government, as well as all State and Local Governments are vastly over staffed.

I can tell you for a fact not all agencies are.

He probably did this to use it as a bargaining chip. In other words, take something they already have and give it back to them in exchange for something they don't want to give him. It's smart. This is the kind of thing the liberals have been doing to the Republicans for decades.

That would mean they would actually have to do WORK instead of sitting on their azzes viewing porn and drinking coffee. Poor dears just wouldn't hack it even for a day.

Better yet, offer them a job at that rate building the Southern wall at no net labor cost increase.

Which ones?

They may be understaffed to do what their job requires. The question is ,how necessary is that job in the first place.

Good question.

I suspect with about a 2 year abolishment of all govt. agencies, we would get to the root of what we really need.

I also think we'd be greatly surprised that we don't even notice the vast majority are gone.

There's a lot of ignorance when it comes to understanding federal jobs and the benefits that go with them.

99% of the people that think they know everything about those f'ing lazy government employees also probably think Congressman (women) get full pensions for serving four years and they retire with a 100% pension. etc. etc.

Are there lazy government workers - YES
Are there lazy workers in the private sector - YES
Is there waste in government offices - YES Depending on which office/organization the waste varies. Same goes for the private sector.

These hiring freezes are completely stupid and the people that think they are good, really don't understand everything involved.

How is someone 10-20 levels removed really know what I might do or what someone else might do? Set staffing level caps and let agencies move people around as needed.

How many people that have chimed in so far are on social security? The way a hard hiring freeze can play out is that all those people that might help you, now retired but because they can no longer be replaced, well tough chit.


I manage a small government office with a staff of four. I was given the option to hire on a fifth a couple years ago. 3-4 months out of the year, I could use that fifth person. I end up doing my techs work quite often along with my own job at times and I'll come in and work extra hours to do my own job over the weekend, or bring my work home. I'd just assume be busy than have people sitting around though or sitting around myself. So I'm not complaining, just don't pretend to know my position and label people or positions you don't know.

In my position we do about 15-20 million in marketing loans each year and while the interest from those loans is low, they also cover my salary and my staff and basically all of the overhead my office incurs. I also have on had probably another 2-3 million in facility loans.

I also play a large part of any disaster assistance and getting emergency loans available if the need arises.

Tornado wipes out your house, too bad. Flood washes it away and you need help, too bad. I'm just a lazy ass government employee.

I had a lot of the same misconceptions before I started working for the government and maybe I'm wrong but I actually think I contribute a lot more to society than a lot of other people. Maybe not as much as some, but a hell of a lot more than a lot of others I know and have worked with.

FYI: Most government employees are on the FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System). I contribute 3.1% I believe?

With 20-30 years of service, they'll retire with approx. 20-30% pension. We also contribute into a system similar to any 401K Thrift Savings Plan) with a 5% match. Congress really isn't any different.

Is that better than some people, yeah it is. Are you going to get rich, NO.


I should go on record, I think Congress does a horse chit job but again all the talk of them retiring with full pensions that are in the six figures is a crock of chit.

In addition, if anyone is thinking... You do that many dollars in loans, but how many are bad?

I have one bad loan in the last three years and I'll be collecting on that in the coming week when un-fortunatly I will foreclose and have to line up the grain to be hauled. That's not even in my area, but will be assisting another office to correct the issue.

One other outstanding receivable I have for about 8 grand I just set up a promissory note this past week and will have that paid in full within this coming year.

I take my job very seriously and have been recognized both publicly and officially for doing so.

The government should not be in the flood insurance, disaster insurance, or loaning money business.

We have charitable organizations, insurance companies, and banks for that.

A lot of guys would be out of business if it wasn't for Federal crop insurance, drought/disaster aid, etc..