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Good options for OWB carry? How about ammo? I've got some Hornady 124gn. XTP's for now. What say the 'fire?
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I carry the Speer Golddot 124 gr +P JHP load. And I care mine in my right front pocket in a cheap neoprene type pocket holster.
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I'm currently using a High Noon Slide Guard for my Shield and like it a lot. My first choice in carry ammo is the Federal HST 124 gr. +P.
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mitch rosen express belt scabbard and 124 grain federal HST
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Thanks for the suggestions fellas, will look into them.
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Good options for OWB carry? How about ammo? I've got some Hornady 124gn. XTP's for now. What say the 'fire? Something that rides high on the belt tends to work best for sub-compacts in an OWB. My favorite OWB's are either the Pancake or Askins Avenger from HBE Leatherworks. Another really good option for OWB is the El Paso Highside or Street Combat; two great OWB's for sub-compact pistols. As for load, you've started off with a very good one. I say any 124-147 JHP from any of the major makers will get the job done quite well.
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I use 147 gr XTP's at 1000fps. Carry that in a pocket holster in my right rear pocket.
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I'd look at 124 Hydra-shoks.
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Don't sweat this load over that load, it's wasted time. Anything from 124-147 in a JHP made by a highly reputable ammunition manufacturer and you're good to go. Now go forth, practice so you can ensure that you'll do your part.
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Short barrel Gold Dot, well proven. Save the duty barrel loads for duty length barrels, especially the 147 version. The 43 loses too much velocity in comparison to a duty barrel.
I have completely converted to AIWB with the 43, which I resisted for quite some time, so I do understand the dislike some express. Regardless the technique, my advice would be to avoid any holster, which has bulk in comparison to the size of the 43. There are quite a number of trim designs, especially appendix, that are first class, that work well with the 43.
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Don't sweat this load over that load, it's wasted time. Anything from 124-147 in a JHP made by a highly reputable ammunition manufacturer and you're good to go. Now go forth, practice so you can ensure that you'll do your part. 10-4, shot up my small stock of practice ammo yesterday, need to get some more. Thanks again, to all, for the suggestions.
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Short barrel Gold Dot, well proven. Save the duty barrel loads for duty length barrels, especially the 147 version. The 43 loses too much velocity in comparison to a duty barrel.
Not sure what the SB GDHP will do but Fed standard HST 147gr should run about 50 fps slower in a G43 vs a G19 (~955 fps vs 1005 fps) which doesn't strike me as loosing to much velocity. For self-defense, that's still plenty of power IMO and they're not bad on recoil either.....
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It was already tested. The latest 147GD is designed around duty length barrels. Excellent performance in that window. When taken down to short barrel velocities, those advantages are lost, as it takes the bullet out of the intended window. The 124 load bumps it back into the window, but on the edge. Tests of this were spotty, because it was on the edge, so a short barrel load was developed. The short barrel GD is designed for excellent performance in that lower 43 velocity range, smack in the middle of the window.
If you were intending to use the 43 for self defense, I would highly recommend the short barrel GD. If you intended to use a 17, I'd highly recommend the 147GD. If a 19, some prefer going down to the 124GD, and that round has a good record. But in a 43, SBGD.
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I use a DeSantis mini-slide and 124 gr Federal 124 gr HST's. I can wear the gun for 12 hours and it is never uncomfortable.
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DeSantis Mini Scabbard for me and I bought the Federal 124 gr HST in std pressure. There are lots of videos showing ballistic gel tests for many of the popular JHP rounds. They all do not perform the same, but many perform well. The videos are worth checking out.
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Don't sweat this load over that load, it's wasted time. Anything from 124-147 in a JHP made by a highly reputable ammunition manufacturer and you're good to go. Now go forth, practice so you can ensure that you'll do your part. Most HP's, even from major manufacturers do not reliably nor consistently upset in tissue. While hitting the correct anatomy is the first concern, when buying ammo it makes sense to choose the best performing ammo available.
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Don't sweat this load over that load, it's wasted time. Anything from 124-147 in a JHP made by a highly reputable ammunition manufacturer and you're good to go. Now go forth, practice so you can ensure that you'll do your part. Most HP's, even from major manufacturers do not reliably nor consistently upset in tissue. While hitting the correct anatomy is the first concern, when buying ammo it makes sense to choose the best performing ammo available. Exactly.
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Thank you FormD. I am simply trying to learn and realize my shooting sucks, can't draw well, take too long to reload but I am taking shooting classes as I can afford them. Lo and behold training is just as important as what guns you fondle.
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I dont carry OWB; but not sure if its the best 124 grain short barrel Gold Dot is my choice.
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I too prefer the short barrel gold dots in any gun with a sub 4" barrel. The specially. Lended powders help get the speed up a bit while diminishing the horrid muzzle flash that is typical in guns of this size.
I don't have a G43, but do have a pair of Shields.
I don't owb mine so no help on holsters as all of mine are iwb and appendix.
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