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Originally Posted by Magnumdood
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The higher courts, or any court for that matter are no place for politics. At least thats how is should be. Seems the 9th ciruit is letting their judgement be clouded by their schitty liberal antics.

Activist judges have been around since judges were given the ability to decide on the constitutionality of a question before their court.

For as long as I can remember the 9th Circus has been handing down activist opinions, reversing local, state and federal law and ignoring the US Constitution.

The US Constituion is not a hard read. The average person can get through it, and understand what is plainly written, in about an hour...maybe longer if you have to move your lips when you read.



Agree. The COTUS is was written by men without an 8yr college degree from a puking liberal ivy league elitest colleg. It states plainly what the rules are. Any high school grad should be able to grasp and understand it.

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Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
Originally Posted by Magnumdood
Originally Posted by Mgw619
The higher courts, or any court for that matter are no place for politics. At least thats how is should be. Seems the 9th ciruit is letting their judgement be clouded by their schitty liberal antics.

Activist judges have been around since judges were given the ability to decide on the constitutionality of a question before their court.

For as long as I can remember the 9th Circus has been handing down activist opinions, reversing local, state and federal law and ignoring the US Constitution.

The US Constituion is not a hard read. The average person can get through it, and understand what is plainly written, in about an hour...maybe longer if you have to move your lips when you read.



Agree. The COTUS is was written by men without an 8yr college degree from a puking liberal ivy league elitest colleg. It states plainly what the rules are. Any high school grad should be able to grasp and understand it.


Very much in agreement!

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The first opinion was just a three judge panel. The re-hearing is for the full group.
The full group tends to echo the 3-judge decisions, so it's just another step that has to be taken.

BTW, the 9th Circuit has an 85% turnover rate by the Supreme Court. Talk about idiots that won't learn!

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This.

Let that sink in awhile... whistle

The "Nutty Ninth" has earned it's nickname.

AND they have a caseload backup of over 13,000 cases. Can America continue to let these idiots dictate law and legislation?


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Is anyone really naïve enough to believe that the 9th might reverse itself. pssstttt......want a good deal on a skyhook.

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
The first opinion was just a three judge panel. The re-hearing is for the full group.
The full group tends to echo the 3-judge decisions, so it's just another step that has to be taken.

BTW, the 9th Circuit has an 85% turnover rate by the Supreme Court. Talk about idiots that won't learn!

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This.

Let that sink in awhile... whistle

The "Nutty Ninth" has earned it's nickname.

AND they have a caseload backup of over 13,000 cases. Can America continue to let these idiots dictate law and legislation?


With this record of 85% wrong decisions it should be time to fire and replace them. Would anyone be able to hold a real job in the private sector with an 85% failure rate?

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If Trump, 're' - Issues an EO, that addresses the concern which prompted the first suit, and replaces the First EO, will that not render the 9ths Rulings moot?


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Originally Posted by JamesJr
Is anyone really naïve enough to believe that the 9th might reverse itself. pssstttt......want a good deal on a skyhook.


I don't entertain delusions about the SC reversing it either.


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Originally Posted by muffin
If Trump, 're' - Issues an EO, that addresses the concern which prompted the first suit, and replaces the First EO, will that not render the 9ths Rulings moot?


It'll take the liberals about 20 minutes to run down and file a new suit.

Cockblocking. That's what they do.


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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
The first opinion was just a three judge panel. The re-hearing is for the full group.
The full group tends to echo the 3-judge decisions, so it's just another step that has to be taken.

BTW, the 9th Circuit has an 85% turnover rate by the Supreme Court. Talk about idiots that won't learn!

Ed


Ed, Someone posted a graph a day or two ago showing that a couple of other Circuits were not far behind the Ninth as far as reversals.


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
The first opinion was just a three judge panel. The re-hearing is for the full group.
The full group tends to echo the 3-judge decisions, so it's just another step that has to be taken.

BTW, the 9th Circuit has an 85% turnover rate by the Supreme Court. Talk about idiots that won't learn!

Ed


Ed, Someone posted a graph a day or two ago showing that a couple of other Circuits were not far behind the Ninth as far as reversals.


Maybe there's a couple more circuits than just the 9th we need to squish?

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Activist judges have to be impeached and that starts with you and I contacting our congresscritters to do so. They will not do this with out the electorate getting behind it HARD. NOT preserving protecting and defending the Constitution has to be an impeachable offense and WE the People must become engaged to hold congresses feet to the fire so they will act on it.

WE are on the offensive and must strike while the iron is hot...

And 2018 is just right around the corner...


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http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...uit-isnt-most-overturned-court-country-/

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The Supreme Court hears cases from the 50 state courts and 13 federal appeals courts, known as circuit courts. The cases that the Supreme Court chooses to take on are often disputed among the lower courts, complex, and problematic, so there’s a reasonable chance that the Supreme Court will decide that the lower court’s decision was wrong.

In fact, the Supreme Court reversed about 70 percent of cases it took between 2010-15. Among cases it reviewed from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, it reversed about 79 percent.


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The Supreme Court only hears a handful of cases from each circuit each year, so the rate of reversal is highly variable, said Jonah Gelbach, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania and a statistician. In 2014, for instance, the 2nd Circuit had a reversal rate of 100 percent, which sounds pretty bad until you find out that the Supreme Court only heard one case from the 2nd Circuit that entire season.

The 9th Circuit is by far the largest circuit. In the 12 months leading up to March, 31, 2015, just under 12,000 cases were filed in the 9th Circuit — more than 4,000 more than the next-largest circuit, the 5th Circuit. Despite that gigantic docket, the Supreme Court heard just 11 cases from the 9th Circuit in 2015, reversing eight.

This means the Supreme Court generally reverses far less than 1 percent of all the cases the 9th Circuit (and other circuits) decide.


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Originally Posted by denton
The 9th Circuit seems headed toward re-hearing the entire issue en banc. The Court has just requested briefs from both sides. As far as I know, that's a bit unusual and only done when the original 3 judge panel has done something very questionable.


Extremely unusual. Courts do not request briefs; they are petitioned for re hearings and appeals. To have a court request briefs preemptively is very, very rare.


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Extraordinarily rare.

A judge on the 9th making that "request" is essentially a demand.

I'd suspect that judge was Alex Kozinski.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
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The 9th Circuit seems headed toward re-hearing the entire issue en banc. The Court has just requested briefs from both sides. As far as I know, that's a bit unusual and only done when the original 3 judge panel has done something very questionable.


Extremely unusual. Courts do not request briefs; they are petitioned for re hearings and appeals. To have a court request briefs preemptively is very, very rare.


Like I said in one of the 20 other threads on this matter. Total setup!!!!


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Extremely unusual. Courts do not request briefs; they are petitioned for re hearings and appeals. To have a court request briefs preemptively is very, very rare.


Listen to the Lawyer guys.

I can't remember the last time I've seen this.


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Originally Posted by Anaconda
The 9th Circuit put themselves is a very precarious position with this decision.

Imagine if there is an immigrant terrorist attack at any time in the future.

It will quickly become known as the “9th Circuit attack” and this court will be saddled with all of the blame.



Nah, the libs will blame Trump, or maybe Bush.


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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
BTW, the 9th Circuit has an 85% turnover rate by the Supreme Court. Talk about idiots that won't learn!

Ed


This is even more ugly than it seems.

The Supreme Court only accepts 3% of the requests for a hearing in the SC.

These a$$holes are wrong 85% of the time, but only 3% of the mistakes they make are fixed by the Supremes.

Lotsa people gettin fcked over in the 9th.

Courts have lost any respectability they once had, anyway, just another reinforcement of the faking of the due process the Constitution guarantees.

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Mgw619: Your sentiment is commendable but your observation is naive to the extreme!
The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has been entirely, completely and unwaveringly outlandishly liberal for the last 45+ years, that I know of.
I began dealing with them in the late 1960's and their decisions have been unwaveringly political (liberal!) every year since then.
That is the main reason their opinions that go on to the Supreme Court of the United States are reversed 86% of the time!
These 9th Circuit Court "judges" are judicial activist (they make judicial decisions based on their political GOALS not in accordance with or based on laws made by citizens through our Senators and Representatives!)!
In short they are liberal leaning "activists" not judges.
Its sad they have been so, for so long!
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Maybe the reason for the 9th's panic:

"Since 9/11, 72 individuals from the seven mostly Muslim countries covered by President Trump's "extreme vetting" executive order have been convicted of terrorism, a finding that clashes sharply with claims from an appeals court that there is "no evidence" those countries have produced a terrorist."

"The Center's director of policy studies, Jessica M. Vaughan, based her blockbuster report on a 2016 report from the Senate Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest, then chaired by new Attorney General Jeff Sessions, that report found that 380 out of 580 people convicted in terror cases since 9/11 were foreign-born.

She received further information on many in the report to conclude that 72 of those convicted of terrorism come from the seven nations target by Trump."

"These immigrant terrorists lived in at least 16 different states, with the largest number from the terror-associated countries living in New York (10), Minnesota (8), California (8), and Michigan (6). Ironically, Minnesota was one of the states suing to block Trump's order to pause entries from the terror-associated countries, claiming it harmed the state. At least two of the terrorists were living in Washington, which joined with Minnesota in the lawsuit to block the order."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...countries-trump-targeted/article/2614582

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