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Bluedreaux: As with most all broad and sweeping generalizations yours is NOT correct! I spent 29 years being and interacting with all manner of law enforcement types then spent twelve more years doing body guard and robbery suppression work with more law enforcement (mostly retired) types! I NEVER once saw a gun in the possession or use of any of these MANY hundreds (thousands!) of law enforcement types that comes anywhere NEAR what you show/allude to/contend! NEVER ONCE! And as I review my firearms inventory I see 6 (six!) pistols that I purchased over the past 4 decades from Law Enforcement agencies two are Glocks and four are Smith & Wessons! All, let me repeat, ALL of them are in excellent to new unfired condition! NONE, let me repeat, NONE of them are in the condition you depict! Nor have I ever seen a police surplus arm that was for sale in the condition you depict! Sheesh! I run with about 35 ex-law enforcement types (F.B.I., D.E.A., State Patrol Officers, County Sheriffs, City police and two Military Police Officers - most all of whom are retired now like me but some active) currently and without exception they are safe gun handlers and take VERY good care of their firearms both handguns and long-guns! Like others posted buyer beware - and sure look for signs of over-use and holster wear but finding an example like you depict is rare! At least I have never seen such. That gun you depict is suffering for poor or long term storage among other things IMO. I completely disagree with your premise/contention. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy Look, we all know you're an idiot, but here's a clue - Bluedreaux IS a cop.
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...like lillysdad said...it all depends on your location...
I talk to LEOs and instructors mainly from Pennsylvania to Maine and I hear the same things I related above.
In Dallas it was different..statistically you had a 7% chance of getting into a gun fight during your career. It was rare that an officer didn't know someone that had been in a gun fight...much different attitude.
I've been in NH for almost 30 years...there were more LE shooting in Dallas in ONE year than in NH the 30 years I've been here. Rochester PD started in the 1800s...there had never been a LE shooting till 1992. Many towns and cities have never had one and many not more than a couple...whole different demographics....and therefore "sheeple" attitude.
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With that I wouldn't buy anything used from a police agency. The stuff has a life cycle for a reason. To me buying a used pistol from a police department is like buying an old police car. What do you think you're going to get. Cops are hard on equipment because they use the hell out of it. Cars, sure...guns..hardly. Not really the same thing.
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Bluedreaux: As with most all broad and sweeping generalizations yours is NOT correct!
You do realize you just made a broad and sweeping generalization about broad and sweeping generalizations, don't you?
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That gun you depict is suffering for poor or long term storage among other things IMO.
For reference, I know know for a fact that this pistol isn't suffering from long term storage in anything but a holster (in a relatively dry climate). It came from a duty belt into my hands. Ask one of your many, many retired LE / bodyguard / coffee shop buddies about the rust line on these magazines.... As they sit in this picture, what would that rust line coincide with?
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What's the problem? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Unless the inside of the barrel is rusted, the magazines look like a bigger problem than the gun. Did you shoot it?
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I don't know about that 95% figure thrown out there above. Surely it must be regionally influenced. In my experience around here about half are not "gun guys." I've never met a female officer that was firearms oriented. Probably 20% of the guys I know and work with are knowledgeable gun guys. Another 25% or so are ok, have more than a basic rudimentary interest in firearms. For about half though they just really don't know any more about their gun and ammunition than they know about how the engine in their patrol car works. And they don't care about knowing anymore than they have to.
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Unless the inside of the barrel is rusted, the magazines look like a bigger problem than the gun. Did you shoot it? No. Those magazines actually don't belong to that gun. Since I already had pics of a rusted gun I only took mag pics with the second "find". I did try to insert the magazine. I got it about halfway in and stopped because I thought it would take a tool to ever get it back out. (That's what she said)
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Unless the inside of the barrel is rusted, the magazines look like a bigger problem than the gun. Did you shoot it? No. Those magazines actually don't belong to that gun. Since I already had pics of a rusted gun I only took mag pics with the second "find". I did try to insert the magazine. I got it about halfway in and stopped because I thought it would take a tool to ever get it back out. (That's what she said) JFC.... This thread's beyond idiotic.
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I've got time to kill, so I'll bite.
How so?
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That gun you depict is suffering for poor or long term storage among other things IMO.
For reference, I know know for a fact that this pistol isn't suffering from long term storage in anything but a holster (in a relatively dry climate). It came from a duty belt into my hands. Ask one of your many, many retired LE / bodyguard / coffee shop buddies about the rust line on these magazines.... As they sit in this picture, what would that rust line coincide with? Careful, Blue... Outsmarting VarmintGay (which is quite easy) will trigger his homoerotic tendencies and he'll start fantasizing about and commenting on your anus. As to the rust lines; that seems pretty easy to figure out.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Unless the inside of the barrel is rusted, the magazines look like a bigger problem than the gun. Did you shoot it? No. Those magazines actually don't belong to that gun. Since I already had pics of a rusted gun I only took mag pics with the second "find". I did try to insert the magazine. I got it about halfway in and stopped because I thought it would take a tool to ever get it back out. (That's what she said) JFC.... This thread's beyond idiotic. Plural has you all f*cked up?
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As to the rust lines; that seems pretty easy to figure out. I thought I'd lob a slow pitch his way. We'll see if he swings or not.
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Thanks for the info Bluedreaux. I seldom buy anything other than FTF, and this reinforces that.
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I am thinking that the right thing to do is identify the supervisor of the person who pulled this pistol and those magazines out of his gunbelt. Demote said supervisor. Suspend Said person.
Oh, and Varmintguy should read and never post.
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I have to say (and I am likely in the minority) that I would still happily pay $330-$350 for that pistol.
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OP says, "Caveat emptor when buying LEO trade-ins sight unseen", while suggesting that one shouldn't assume all LEOs take care of their service weapons. OP provides pics of rusty glock and mags. Respondents take thread to be wholesale indictment of LEOs.
It's a snowy Saturday in February. I guess I hoping for better entertainment.
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I would too, unless it is a 40. I hate a stinking 40 S&W.
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Unless the inside of the barrel is rusted, the magazines look like a bigger problem than the gun. Did you shoot it? No. Those magazines actually don't belong to that gun. Since I already had pics of a rusted gun I only took mag pics with the second "find". I did try to insert the magazine. I got it about halfway in and stopped because I thought it would take a tool to ever get it back out. (That's what she said) JFC.... This thread's beyond idiotic. Plural has you all f*cked up? N > 2 It's a start.
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