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I just looked at the 130 gr. Scirocco Wby data... Check out energy at a thousand, B.C. and trajectory. SSII's aren't always the easiest to get to shoot, can be COAL sensitive like high ogive bullets. I don't know how Wby freebore affects that. In other rounds, SSII's seem to like to jump and I've gotten good groups adjusting COAL. They all jump with freebore... May have to try them in the 26 Nosler. But, they gonna have to perform to beat out 120 gr. mono's... DF
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Those Sciroccos are wicked bullets DF. Never had seen them in action till this fall and I was really impressed on two elk, one close and one 475 yards. They opened up really well and also penetrated like a BBC... just might try the 150's from my MSM this fall.
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I tried the 127 LRX and 129 ABLR in the 26 Nosler, neither would group with 120 TTSX's or 120 E-tips, around MOA vs. half MOA.
It's my understanding the 26 Nosler was built around the 129 ABLR. I think at closer range, that one could become a bomb, I'm sure it's OK way out yonder.
I've not tried the 130 SSII; it may be a good one in the 26 or Wby, tough enough for closer shots, good LR performance. Now, to get those things grouping...
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DF, with all of the bonded bullets I use the Berger method. .050 to start and work work back in .025" increments. It hasn't failed me yet and those Sciroccos aren't really "hard" for me to get to work like that.
One of those will for sure jump out as a place to really work them. Plus, they have a thick base and seem to really thrive with a kick in the pants. Good luck with them. I may give them a shot in my 264 Win Mag as well.
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So, forgetting about righty-tighty and lefty-loosy, if one were looking just at cartridges, which way to go? 26 Nos or 6.5 Wby?
I know; I know -- that darn belt. But, otherwise...?
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A belt never did bother me, wear one every day.
Wouldn't component cost be a lot lower with the nosler round?
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I need either about like I need more mud at the moment. 😐
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So, forgetting about righty-tighty and lefty-loosy, if one were looking just at cartridges, which way to go? 26 Nos or 6.5 Wby?
I know; I know -- that darn belt. But, otherwise...?
I had built a pair of 26 Noslers for me and a hunting buddy before the Wby round was rolled out. All said, I'd probably do the Nosler for a number of reasons. Brass is expensive for both, but the Nosler brass sometimes is discounted at Midway and the Pro Shop. I like the 3.4" round in a 3.6" gun for COAL flexibility. But, both rounds do what they were designed to do. DF
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All but one of the adds on GunBroker spec a 1 in 10 twist. I don't know if this is a typo or not.
I check the Weatherby web pages. All the 6.5 x300 rifles were 1 in 8 twist. I knew that couldn't be correct.
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I have a almost brand new Mark V Accumark in 300 weatherby that I lucked into a while ago. It has a HS precision stock, steel bottom metal and was interested in rebarreling it into something less exciting. My options are 340 weatherby or 6.5 weatherby. I looked at the brass prices yesterday and gasped.
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You wouldn't shoot it that much, 100 pieces last a long time.
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THANKS FOR RIPLEYS ILL STICK WITH 270 OR 25-06
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You wouldn't shoot it that much, 100 pieces last a long time. Yep. You don't "buy" Wby brass, you "invest" in Wby brass. 26 Nosler not quite as bad, although they're not giving them away. I did pick up some on SPS for a pretty good price, saw discounted brass at MidwayUSA. And, Nosler brass really good quality, prepped and ready to go. It seems to last, primer pockets staying tight even with "warm" loads. I don't know about "Fire" loads, those may stretch primer pockets... DF
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Solid copy.. should've said I don't jam the bonded bullets but start them all .050 off. You're right though, it's a great way to find accuracy.
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Well, 100 fps is about what their data shows. Maybe they're pushing the Wby harder, maybe it's freebore at work.
I like the 26, never fooled with the Wby, just know what I've read.
DF
I saw that referenced elsewhere in the thread too. I just thought I'd look into it as I have a rifle I could very easily see screwing a 26 (or 6.5-300) barrel onto... MidwayUSA: Wby 6.5-300 Wby brass, $86.99/20 or $4.34 per case. Blems at SPS: 26 Nosler brass, $56.20/25 or $2.24 per case. So Wby brass is nearly twice the cost of blem Nosler brass. IME, SPS blem brass is as good as non-blem. I can't find anything wrong with it. Regular price is $65.99/25, or $2.64 per case. DF
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Brass price has never been a barrier to me. This is even more true of a chambering that for me would be used in a low volume hunting rig set up. The rifle I have in mind already has barrels in 257 and 340 Weatherby. I'm sure I would select the Nosler in the end because I think the design is better overall.
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Found a new 26 Nosler Patriot today for 1200 bucks.
Pretty nice rifle.
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Found a new 26 Nosler Patriot today for 1200 bucks.
Pretty nice rifle. I haven't handled one, but from all reports, that's a lot of gun for the money. JB liked the one he tested, bought it and sold his .264 WM. I built my 26 Nosler. I paid $400 for a smoke damaged 700 BDL in 7RM, added a 26" #2 SS Shilen, was able to use the OEM stock, pillared, glassed, free floated and torqued, added a 510 Timney as the factory trigger couldn't be adjusted. So, I'm at your $1,200 price, doing a bunch of the work myself. Had to spend money adjusting the action to feed the fat Nosler round. Added a SS RUM mag box, had the rails milled to clear the Nosler case. Some 700's, from what I've heard, will clear the Nosler case without metal work. Mine wouldn't. DF
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Did you buy it Jim? If not can you divulge its whereabouts?
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