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#11827341 - 02/15/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: dennisinaz]  
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Subsonic shoots best at 50yds and can be the most expensive. It may die and hit the ground before 150.
I like my mod 37s for accuracy and my 40x as a tote around rifle.

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#11827369 - 02/15/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: dennisinaz]  
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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
One thing I have learned with trying to shoot 22s at 150 and beyond is that ammo becomes vitally important. Shooting a 1/2" group at 50 yards doesn't guarantee a 1" group at a 100 even if there is no wind. Some ammo was noticeably more accurate at 150 yards but was NOT the best ammo at 50 yards. I have tried possibly every type of quality ammo available and some of the really expensive stuff shot like crap in my rifles and some of it shot lights out!


What I have learned about shooting at 100 yards with a .22 is that I should be using my .17hmr........17 just picks up where the .22 runs out of steam and is a much better round for the 100-150 yard shots.


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Anschutz or Cooper if you can find one for the price you stated


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For me, it's the Cooper.

I've had Annie, 40X repeater, Win 52, Kimber, all sporters, all since gone down the road.

Still have this one, Cooper Classic with Kahles rimfire 2-7. It's a keeper.

About perfection, IMO.

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#11828327 - 02/15/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: butchlambert1]  
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Originally Posted by butchlambert1
Subsonic shoots best at 50yds and can be the most expensive. It may die and hit the ground before 150.
I like my mod 37s for accuracy and my 40x as a tote around rifle.



Butch- I have had best luck at 150 with Eley Tenex and Eley Match. Next best is RWS R50. Lapua Midas and other $20 a box stuff stunk at 150 yards. I can't beat Wolf Match Extra at 50 yards even with the Eley stuff.

I don't even shoot high velocity stuff anymore except when hunting. Wish I could find a nice clean 37.


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#11828353 - 02/15/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: dennisinaz]  
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Kimber of Oregon.


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#11828763 - 02/15/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: pal]  
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Best bolt action 22 I've ever had was a Remington model 512.


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Originally Posted by KMS
Best bolt action 22 I've ever had was a Remington model 512.
You have never owned a really good 22 then

#11829480 - 02/15/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
For me, it's the Cooper.

I've had Annie, 40X repeater, Win 52, Kimber, all sporters, all since gone down the road.

Still have this one, Cooper Classic with Kahles rimfire 2-7. It's a keeper.

About perfection, IMO.

DF




I tried a few scopes on my Cooper, right now it has a VX2 3x9 CDS with the parallax set at 50 yds although 75 would probably be better for my use that is paper and squirrels.

I completely forgot about Lapua, Midas-L and M shot very good in the Win 52B.


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#11829694 - 02/15/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: dennisinaz]  
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You'd be hard-pressed to find a Cooper .22 for <$1200 bucks.
I know it's not a bolt action, but, if I were spending a grand + on a .22, I'd strongly consider a Kidd 10/22 http://www.coolguyguns.com/RIFLES_c_10.html


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VX-2 3-9 CDS is a lot of scope for the buck. To me, the new VX-2 series is pretty darn close to the VX-3. In fact, I find it hard to tell much difference. I like the 2-7, as well.

Can you post photos?

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#11829916 - 02/16/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
For me, it's the Cooper.

I've had Annie, 40X repeater, Win 52, Kimber, all sporters, all since gone down the road.

Still have this one, Cooper Classic with Kahles rimfire 2-7. It's a keeper.

About perfection, IMO.

DF

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Where do you get one of these for $1200?


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For you folks that are familiar with a Kleinguenther k-22 it is a real good choice. It's first cousin made by Mauser the 201 is the exact rifle. These are very light sporter rifles. They are known for their accuracy and show up on GunBroker pretty often. Hasbeen


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#11830238 - 02/16/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: centershot]  
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Originally Posted by centershot
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
For me, it's the Cooper.

I've had Annie, 40X repeater, Win 52, Kimber, all sporters, all since gone down the road.

Still have this one, Cooper Classic with Kahles rimfire 2-7. It's a keeper.

About perfection, IMO.

DF

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Where do you get one of these for $1200?

Shop around for a good used one.

.22 LR's barrels last and last. If the gun looks OK, the barrel will probably be OK.

I traded for this one.

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#11830268 - 02/16/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
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[quote=Dirtfarmer]For me, it's the Cooper.

I've had Annie, 40X repeater, Win 52, Kimber, all sporters, all since gone down the road.

Still have this one, Cooper Classic with Kahles rimfire 2-7. It's a keeper.

About perfection, IMO.

DF


I am with DF on this one, I have owned all of the above also and now my go-to is my Cooper 57M Classic.

It will take some patience and careful shopping to find one within your self-imposed limit but it can be done.

My second choice for a sporter would be an older Sako Finnfire or at a lower price level a CZ 452.

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#11831803 - 02/16/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: dennisinaz]  
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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Originally Posted by butchlambert1
Subsonic shoots best at 50yds and can be the most expensive. It may die and hit the ground before 150.
I like my mod 37s for accuracy and my 40x as a tote around rifle.



Butch- I have had best luck at 150 with Eley Tenex and Eley Match. Next best is RWS R50. Lapua Midas and other $20 a box stuff stunk at 150 yards. I can't beat Wolf Match Extra at 50 yards even with the Eley stuff.

I don't even shoot high velocity stuff anymore except when hunting. Wish I could find a nice clean 37.



I have 3 mod 37s left.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
VX-2 3-9 CDS is a lot of scope for the buck. To me, the new VX-2 series is pretty darn close to the VX-3. In fact, I find it hard to tell much difference. I like the 2-7, as well.

Can you post photos?

DF



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#11831855 - 02/16/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: skeen]  
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Originally Posted by skeen
You'd be hard-pressed to find a Cooper .22 for <$1200 bucks.
I know it's not a bolt action, but, if I were spending a grand + on a .22, I'd strongly consider a Kidd 10/22 http://www.coolguyguns.com/RIFLES_c_10.html


I used to think a gun HAD to be a bolt action to be super accurate.

I was wrong.


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#11831930 - 02/16/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: dennisinaz]  
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Dirt they sure don't. But we'd most likely squabble as a group over what "super accurate" meant;)


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A finely tuned, custom 10-22 can push a good bolt gun on accuracy. Some are pretty amazing.

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#11833178 - 02/17/17 Re: Best 22 Bolt rifle under $1200 [Re: dennisinaz]  
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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I have a lot of people tell me their 22s will shoot a 1/2" group ( I use 10-shots for 22) but none of them can ever do it.


A buddy at work and I bought Anschutz 1407 repeaters a few years ago. Groups have been easily under 0.5, with 0.2-0.3 not uncommon. These are 54 target rifles though, not sporters.

Shortly after getting the rifles, he made us some targets from angle iron. The goal is to shoot into one of the holes, which causes an L-shaped piece of steel to flip up. If you miss, the splatter shows up outside the hole. You can see the target in the images below (ignore the chickens and orange thing).

Anyway, the smallest "target", or hole is 1/2". At 50 yards, you can put every shot into that hole with the 54 rifles. It's so easy that it gets boring really fast and we don't even bother using that contraption anymore. That buddy has also made lollipop targets from small washers. He puts green painter's tape on the back. You thread the bullet through the hole in the washer and can see the hole in the tape. If you miss the hole and hit the washer, the whole thing spins.

Since getting the Annies, he's come up with all sorts of tiny targets. It's been a hoot.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by skeen
You'd be hard-pressed to find a Cooper .22 for <$1200 bucks.
I know it's not a bolt action, but, if I were spending a grand + on a .22, I'd strongly consider a Kidd 10/22 http://www.coolguyguns.com/RIFLES_c_10.html


I used to think a gun HAD to be a bolt action to be super accurate.

I was wrong.


That target contraption in my post above has been handy for "weeding" out other rifles. We both have 10-22 rifles that can place most bullets into the 1/2" hole. Sometimes 10 out of 10, but not always. My rifle has a Kidd trigger and Clerke bull barrel. His has a tensioned ultralight barrel. Both have Hogue stocks. I think the light weight of our 10/22 rifles is what holds us back more than anything.


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That's pretty cool Jason..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
VX-2 3-9 CDS is a lot of scope for the buck. To me, the new VX-2 series is pretty darn close to the VX-3. In fact, I find it hard to tell much difference. I like the 2-7, as well. Can you post photos? DF



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