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It would be hard to change my opinion that the 2-12x42 VX-6 is the finest all around rifle scope ever made Really? VX-6 is a great scope but the 2-10x42 Zeiss Diavari pops to mind real quick as something better. The VX-6 is good but not "finest" IME. I have a couple of VX-6's, a couple of Zeiss Victory's. The VX-6 is a great scope, a Victory it is not. But, the Victory is several times the price of a VX-6, especially the close out VX-6's. Is the Victory three or so times better than the VX-6? Of course not. No way. I got my Victory's used, would never pay full retail. The closeout VX-6's are probably the best scope deal currently on the market, IMO. DF
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I just paid $931 shipped for a VX-6 3x18x50mm
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It would be hard to change my opinion that the 2-12x42 VX-6 is the finest all around rifle scope ever made Really? VX-6 is a great scope but the 2-10x42 Zeiss Diavari pops to mind real quick as something better. The VX-6 is good but not "finest" IME. I have a couple of VX-6's, a couple of Zeiss Victory's. The VX-6 is a great scope, a Victory it is not. But, the Victory is several times the price of a VX-6, especially the close out VX-6's. Is the Victory three or so times better than the VX-6? Of course not. No way. I got my Victory's used, would never pay full retail. The closeout VX-6's are probably the best scope deal currently on the market, IMO. DF Agreed on all counts. VX6 is a great value. Like so many things it takes a lot more pesos to gain a little more performance. I like VX6's a bunch, just wouldn't say they're the finest scope ever made.
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Interesting. Three reference points aren't enough for 3-400 yds. More expensive than a a Sharpie. DF
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Definitely more expensive that a Sharpie, but with the weak Euro cheaper than ever!
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I've been using these for custom turrets. They aye inexpensive and work great. http://customturretsystems.com/
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Adk, I've been looking at those, too. May be the best option for turrets you can't write on. I'm thinking, for the CDS, the tape will be cheaper than getting a new turret from Leupold. After the first free one, this may be a good option for a load change. The CDS is about the least expensive turret and IIRC, a new load specific CDS is in the $60 range. I have Zeiss Conquests I've sent back for elevation turrets. The tape will work on the generic cap. Zeiss turrets turn the wrong way, have no zero stop, but reportedly work well with accurate tracking. DF
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Any opinions on a z6i 3-18 x 50? I own a plex z5 bt 3.5-18. Think it is a fine scope. Have never owned an illuminated scope other than a Trijicon. Was considering the BRH illuminated reticle. Thinking you get the dot for low light and woods and the holdover reticle for long distance. This would be for an all around 280ai. Know it is absurdly expensive.
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but the Z800 reticle matches my trajectory perfectly all the way out to 800 yards I'm very curious if your using max. magnification, or a different setting to achieve this? Also, if your using max. magnification what is your BC and velocity? Thanks,
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but the Z800 reticle matches my trajectory perfectly all the way out to 800 yards I'm very curious if your using max. magnification, or a different setting to achieve this? Also, if your using max. magnification what is your BC and velocity? Thanks, Swarovski has an app allowing the user to configure a drop chart per their particular ballistics. It provides estimated ranges for each subtension on Swarovski's ballistic reticles at specific magnification settings.
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Well my VX6 arrived. I mounted it (3x18x50mm) on my AR . The clicks on the turrets are a little bit mushy,but they work. The optics aren't as good as a Swarovski ,but they still hit the ball out of the park. Montana Prairie Dogs will die.
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I'm using max magnification of 15 power on my 300 Weatherby to match the Z800 trajectory using 180 grain TTSX but I am sighted in at 225 yards and that may be why it matches up. I've got 77 grains of IMR 4350 pushing it somewhere between 3100 and 3200 but it has been a while since I ran it over the chronograph. The 225 wasn't derived from a mathematical formula or the Zeiss software it is just the maximum distance I can set up a target frame at my place.
I have occasional access at a 1000+ yard range and before last elk season I ran it from 400 to 700 yards without a miss at 10" wide x 24" tall metal silhouette targets seated on uneven ground resting on both knees. With 2 spotters I shot 3 times without hitting the target at 800 but the misses were inside 6" right or left and center of the target for elevation so all would have been hits at broadside elk vitals in about 5-10 mph wind. Since that is about 200 yards farther than I intend to shoot at an elk and duplicates hunting conditions pretty well I'm satisfied with that from the rifle and scope combination.
Two seasons ago I shot a large cow at 550 yards broadside and then turned to 3/4 facing me. The 2 shots had one large exit hole behind her offside shoulder to so I'm sold on the Z800 performance with the Weatherby.
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