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More likely than resistance, would be them learning to avoid the bait, IMO. Hogs are smart.
Because nitrites affect their hemaglobin and because they're uniquely sensitive to it, I don't see resistance happening.
Hogs will find a way to beat it; they're survivors. I don't think it's possible to wipe them out.
We can only attempt to control their growing numbers.
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As I stated earlier, the Director of the Wildlife Division of Texas Parks & Wildlife Dept. told me personally his department was NOT in favor of poisoning hogs.
This morning's local paper had a story about a lawsuit already filed to prevent this.
Mike They're not eating his crops, rooting up his fields and pastures... It's easy to be a purist when YOUR ox is not being gored... DF
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Guess so. Nothing they can really damage on my place, and I like to have them to shoot occasionally, so I'm not a fan of poison.
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Be nice to be able to pizen coyotes.
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Im no tree hugger, but using science to eradicate anything is bad ju-ju.
Hell, science used to feed the world hasnt been without serious consequence in this neck of the woods.
But hey, hats off to Liz Garst for burning off some habitat last week....
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Today's paper had a piece saying TP&WD is officially opposed, because the Warferin poison - the one Sid Miller wants to use - has not been thoroughly tested as to collateral damage on other animals, plus the Texas Hog Hunters Association (which I had never heard of before) has filed a lawsuit that was joined by TP&WD and resulted in an injunction being issued to stop the use of poison at least temporarily. Supposedly Australia has decided against it for "humane" reasons, because it kills pretty slowly.
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Gotta ask this after another thread that ran earlier. If the hogs are such a problem, and I believe they are, why does it cost so darn much to hunt them? Others have mentioned, because people WILL pay big money and the abuse and neglect of too many so called hunters but no one has answered - GREED. Feral hogs have become a natural Cash Crop. Guys I'm in total sympathy with y'all. We have feral hogs in Ark but I've never lived close enuff to where they are to try to reduce their numbers. Best of Luck to any/all who are infested with them. Jerry
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I doubt Warfarin will be approved at the state level for hog control, but sodium nitrite will be within the next couple years.
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I've done some reading on sodium nitrite. The problem is getting them to eat it as it tastes and smells bad. Once they get a small dose, they avoid it. Researchers have been trying to find a way to hide it in some kind of edible feed. One article I read said that they've had good luck with gummy bears.
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Be nice to be able to pizen coyotes. Why?
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Poison will get into the environment and kill more than just hogs. Not a good idea.
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Nitrites aren't such a toxic substance, per se. It just affects hog more than most animals.
Hogs have a unique sensitivity this material, turns their hemaglobin into methemaglobin which decreases oxygen carrying capacity of the blood. They suffocate and die.
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