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Maybe should have asked this on the Reloading Forum, but am looking for the widest potential response. Am starting a project and would appreciate your knowledge and experience. Realizing there are many variables among rifles etc., the idea is to see if any general “bests” emerge.
In loading for up-tempo .22 centerfire rifles (.220 Swift, 22/250, .222 Rem Mag, - well, OK - .223AI, etc.) what combination of powder and bullet has proven to be the most accurate for you. Not thinking about bullet performance on game – simply most consistently accurate with tight groups.
Lets keep it simple – if you will, please name one powder/grains and one bullet. Like: 35gr of 4895 with 55gr Sierra Spitzer.
Thanks for any help.
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For my 223 Rem varmint rifle the most accurate load I've found is 25.5 grains of Reloder 15 under a 55 gr Sierra BlitzKing bullet.
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Gee Paul, there is no single answer for any of those questions really...
I've got multiple rifles in several calibers mentioned... and loads can vary between each one.. the barrel and chamber have a big input on that....
I've got several rifles that are real tack drivers, with certain loads... but they threw things around like a sling shot for the first 500 to 700 rounds thru it...
I think the answer lies with the individual rifle barrel...
but like for the 22.250 and 223, I've found they aren't overly picky, regardless of powder and bullet weight in general...
you get a load that works like Pharmseller demonstrates above.. then you live with it for that rifle...and smile when your friends are impressed...
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Never have loaded for a Swuft, but have loaded both the .223 and .22-250, which I would guess are the most popular. Varget is a good all-around choice in both cartridges, and works well in a bunch of other rounds.
for a .223 (not AI) 24gr Varget under a Berger 77gr OTM. Needs at least a 1 in 9" or faster twist barrel. I will probably be loading some of these in the next couple of days.
.22-250 - 37gr Varget under a 50gr Ballistic Tip. Works in a 1 in 14" barrel
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Gee Paul, there is no single answer for any of those questions really...
I've got multiple rifles in several calibers mentioned... and loads can vary between each one.. the barrel and chamber have a big input on that....
I've got several rifles that are real tack drivers, with certain loads... but they threw things around like a sling shot for the first 500 to 700 rounds thru it...
I think the answer lies with the individual rifle barrel...
but like for the 22.250 and 223, I've found they aren't overly picky, regardless of powder and bullet weight in general...
you get a load that works like Pharmseller demonstrates above.. then you live with it for that rifle...and smile when your friends are impressed... Good post buddy. I agree with this. I once heard the 53gr. V-max shot very well out of most .223 rem's, so I gave them a try. Now, that's about all I shoot anymore. I've been shooting this combo for quite a while now. Just bought another box of bullets a couple hours ago too. The load I use works very well in a few .223 rem rifles I've tried it in: This group was fired from a Ruger Hawkeye using LC brass. Generally I run R-P brass and have since gotten rid of all of my LC brass. I did, however, bump up the charge wt. to 25.5 grains when switching to R-P brass vs. the thicker LC brass, but groups are still pretty good: Now to test some BR4 primers I just bought.... Ran across some H4350 at a LGS too. Damn it's my lucky day!!!!
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In loading for up-tempo .22 centerfire rifles (.220 Swift, 22/250, .222 Rem Mag, - well, OK - .223AI, etc.)
The cartridges you listed aren't in the same class. If you want optimum performance you'll need to narrow things down. Travis
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Gee Paul, there is no single answer for any of those questions really...I think the answer lies with the individual rifle barrel...you get a load that works like Pharmseller demonstrates above.. then you live with it for that rifle...and smile when your friends are impressed... Thanks, John - but all of the above was understood when I asked, which is why the post noted "Realizing there are many variables among rifles etc.,". I've have arrived at good loads for my several 22/250s, two .220 Swifts and other rifles shooting .22 cartridges with less powder capacity. Am not looking for a specific load for a specific rifle - the quest is broader. Thanks again.
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In loading for up-tempo .22 centerfire rifles (.220 Swift, 22/250, .222 Rem Mag, - well, OK - .223AI, etc.) The cartridges you listed aren't in the same class. If you want optimum performance you'll need to narrow things down. Travis Thanks - but not focused on a single rifle or cartridge. Please see reply to Seafire.
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Maybe should have asked this on the Reloading Forum, but am looking for the widest potential response. Am starting a project and would appreciate your knowledge and experience. Realizing there are many variables among rifles etc., the idea is to see if any general “bests” emerge.
In loading for up-tempo .22 centerfire rifles (.220 Swift, 22/250, .222 Rem Mag, - well, OK - .223AI, etc.) what combination of powder and bullet has proven to be the most accurate for you. Not thinking about bullet performance on game – simply most consistently accurate with tight groups.
Lets keep it simple – if you will, please name one powder/grains and one bullet. Like: 35gr of 4895 with 55gr Sierra Spitzer.
Thanks for any help. My 22 BR loved AA 2015 and 50 gr BTs.
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Thanks - appreciate the loadings provided so far - hope there are more coming.
[Unfortunately, right after this thread was started it would not open (403 Forbidden error) so I gave up on it and went over and posted a similar one on the Reloading Forum. Sorry if the duplication is a problem for anyone.]
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TAC is pretty good with TTSX, too T3 1-10" P
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Varget would be my first answer. TAC would be a second, and might beat varget, but just have not had enough time with TAC to know for sure.
I don't shoot either in any of the above anymore for other reasons...
But for overall I'd think this hard to beat probably.
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My Savage 112 in 223 like LC brass, Win WSR, 26.0gr. H-335 and a 50gr. V-Max. 26" 1 in 9" twist, avg 3325fps. There are many many dead prarie dogs that wish that load didn't work so well!!
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Diameter 0.224 Inches Grain Weight 40 Grains Bullet Style Polymer Tip Flat Base Cannelure yes Bullet Coating Non-Coated Bullet Caliber 22 Caliber
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26/H4895 & 55 Nozler BT.........
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I've never use anything other than H335 in any of my 223's, all shot very well with a variety of bullet weights.
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The only thing I use anymore in a 22-250 is 35.5 gr. of IMR-4320 and a 55 gr. Ballistic Tip. It's not a real fast load (3500 fps range) but it's so accurate and consistent and I've come to know its trajectory so well that I just stuck with it. As long as it's accurate the 'chucks can't seem to tell the difference in a couple hundred fps or so.
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24.5 grs of Varget and a 75 Amax....223 Rem
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Paul, I purchased a used Reminton 700 about a year ago. The owner had passed away. The date codes indicate the rifle was made in 1967. It still wears the original factory barrel. Came with some loads that that the old man had worked up. Remington 700 Cartridge: .222 Remington Powder: H4198 Charge: 19.0 grains Bullet: 40 grain Core-Lokt (no longer made) Top group with the old mans loads... Bottom group just as a test is from newly purchased Federal Power Shok 50 grain PSP (The stuff in the blue box). The squares on the target are 1/2" to give you an idea of the group size. I don't know the velocity of the hand loads. Federal states that their stuff is 3140 fps @ the muzzle. I sure wish I could find more of those 40 gr Core-lokts... Best wishes in your new project. Keep us updated. OH... On Dennis's Chrono, Factory Winchester bulk varmint rounds, in .22-250 45gr HP are hitting 4,250+ fps out of my Savage Model 10, 1:14, 26" bull barrel. That is some FAST stuff. Does wonders on critters when you make a head shot. Shoots sub moa. Jeff
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