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Buy some Hawk bullets with the thinnest jacket they offer. I shot some of their .318 bullets in an old double rifle and they expanded well at velocity below 2500fps.
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The softest would be cast, pure lead. However, you will probably have leading problems unless you keep the velocity very slow.
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tzone, I said "not so tough" next time I'll be more specific.
In my responses I got recommendations for 150, 165, and 180 grain bullets while I specifically asked for 220s. I don't understand your response. Captdavid
"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds.
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Thanks Perry, I've sent emails to them, with no response. C
"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds.
If you are a hunter, and farther than that, get closer!
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Steelhead, I've always considered them to be one of the tougher bullets. I'll look again. Thanks, captdavid
"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds.
If you are a hunter, and farther than that, get closer!
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They aren't inexpensive, but I guarantee that they will expand and nicely.
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I like heavy for caliber bullets. I used the Hornady 220 RNs in a 30-06 and 300 H&H to take a few (4 or 5) whitetail and mule deer does and the performance was good. I never recovered a bullet and all were heart/lung shots, some quartered away and some broadside, one running at 20 yards. The bullets all made 1-1.5 inch exit wounds with minimal meat damage. While none were drop on the spot shots, none of them went more than 50 yards.
I loaned my 300 H&H to a friend to take a small caribou meat bull using a 220 grain Partition. That was a nearly straight on shot with the bullet entering the front of the chest between the right shoulder and the center of the chest high enough to clip the spine and exiting the left flank. Similar performance. A 1.5 inch exit wound with little meat damage.
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In my responses I got recommendations for 150, 165, and 180 grain bullets while I specifically asked for 220s. I don't understand your response. Captdavid It's a Campfire thing, and I'll admit I'm guilty. But some of us are offering honest suggestions to achieve the terminal ballistic result you want without the machinations of getting just the right 220 and so on. That said, if you gotta have a 220 then go for it. I've got my own handloading quirks too. For example, I like to load 180's in my 300 Savage but I rarely do in any of my 308's.
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The Sierra 220 Round Nose gets good reviews for downing deer in 30-06.
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The Sierra 220 Round Nose gets good reviews for downing deer in 30-06. I have been using the Sierra 220 gr in my .06 for years. both deer and elk.bNo complaints, they kill fine, text book mushroom of the ones I found..I did have two elk that I killed in excess of 300 yards and the died too. Two years ago. I put a brake on my .06 My shoulder was so bad,even 150 gr bullets were two much.I tamed the 220's and I can run 20-30 of them thru the gun now with no problem. Spring of 2018 I am suppose to have full reverse shoulder implant done.That may be another story though, but the doc said could still shoot after I had it done
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I got several boxes of 220 s. Pm me an address and I can send you an assortment for your reloading pleasure. John
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Remember, this is a deer hunting thread. I'm looking for a 220gn bullet for my 30-06. Round nose, semi or Spitzer, I don't care. I just want something that is not too tough. I'm considering the Hornady RN, AS I assume it's not designed for magnums. I'm considering the Partitions because of their soft front. I am willing to choose others. I am a big fan of Spitzers in my guns. I use the 150gn Partitions in my 7x57 and both 165gn Partitions and Ballistic Tips in my 30-06. I have begun to use 175 RNs in my 7x57 when pig hunting and I know that most shots will be 100yds or so. They are deadly and destroy a lot less meat. Sometimes I have a chance at deer. I'm thinking I might try using 220s to the same effect. What 220gn bullets should I choose for my 30-06? Captdavid For what you're hunting, try some Speer Hotcores, 165 or 180 gr. They'll give you a very good mushroom without blowing things up. I've shot a lot of deer and elk both with them with great results.
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Oh, Capt Davod, You forgot that half the people responding to a thread don't care about the OPs question, only their answer. "I'm looking for a 220 grain deer bullet for 30-06." I never owned one but... I would use a... Get a 243... Buy a Steyr with a Swarovski... My great Grandma's boyfriend's cousin's dog says: "You can't get there from here."
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My favorite 220 grain bullet, .30-06, for deer: Lyman #311284, cast at a hardness of bhn 12-14, driven at 2000fps (duplicates the old .30 Army -.30-40 Krag- gov't load). That's my favorite 220 grain, but like most guys here I prefer a lighter bullet, a 190 grain flat nose cast, driven at the same velocity or a bit less. Hey, you asked.
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Deflagrate, yep, captdavid
"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds.
If you are a hunter, and farther than that, get closer!
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Oh, Capt Davod, You forgot that half the people responding to a thread don't care about the OPs question, only their answer. "I'm looking for a 220 grain deer bullet for 30-06." I never owned one but... I would use a... Get a 243... Buy a Steyr with a Swarovski... My great Grandma's boyfriend's cousin's dog says: "You can't get there from here."
Wrong. I do care about the OP's question. I suggested something else because I've shot deer with 220gr RN and they don't give you the bang for the buck as others do. I have a pretty good pile of 30-06's. I've shot more deer with those than any other.
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I don't understand. I asked a simple question, I thought. It had to do with finding a 220gn bullet that would work on deer. I stated the reason, clearly I thought. I said that I had successfully used 165s. I didn't ask for any suggestions about other bullets, only about 220s. I even reiterated this in another post.
Now I am asking for suggestions.
How should I have asked the question, so as not to get all the extemporaneous BS? :):)
Captdavid
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If you are a hunter, and farther than that, get closer!
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...How should I have asked the question, so as not to get all the extemporaneous BS?... ...on a different forum?
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love both the sierra's and the hornady 220's, they shoot real good in my Winchester model 54 with open sights
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