24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 26,647
Likes: 7
R
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 26,647
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by persiandog
what if dress code was head scarf , would you have agreed to it?

P.

It's their airline, and their rules.

I thought most of y'all were all about businesses setting their own rules.

I guess that only applies when you happen to agree?


Have YOU read ANY of the replies in this thread?
SMDH


FJB & FJT
GB1

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,920
Likes: 3
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,920
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by persiandog
what if dress code was head scarf , would you have agreed to it?

P.


"What if's" are a game a junior high kid would play.


"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
Everyday Hunter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494
R
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
R
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494
Originally Posted by persiandog
what if dress code was head scarf , would you have agreed to it?

P.
If I didn't like it I could buy a ticket full price somewhere else....


We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,490
Likes: 20
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,490
Likes: 20
Most airline employees aren't in a get rich job. Alaska, I know, doesn't pay all that well. The flight benefits cost the airline almost nothing because the seats would be empty otherwise and it's a way of compensating employees for the low pay.

Our daughter has her fiance on her benefits as her significant other. In the past 2 years they've been all over South America, Europe, and Asia. They'll hop a plane and fly to Spain or somewhere whenever they can put together a few days off.


β€œIn a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell

It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206
Likes: 5
L
las Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
L
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206
Likes: 5
One is also not to call attention to the fact that one is flying non-rev...

One is to follow the empoyer's dress-code guidlines while flying non-rev, as well as on duty, which are not stringent (at least not for Alaska Airlines).

There is also a whole ladder of non-rev priority. Senoirity is parmount (it's not first come-first serve signup), under employees traveling on/for company business, even if not on duty at the time.

Alaska employees with at least 15 years of service have life-time non-rev privileges, for themselves, after retirement or ending employment. I always wonder how many on the plane are flying non-rev.....

The only question I have is - was the legging issue spelled out in the dress code, or was it the agent's judgement call? Either way, suck it up buttercup - it's the agent's call, within reason. Which the people in question did. (I don't even know what "leggings" are, or if I would judge them non-acceptable under the circumstances)

You will also note that it wasn't an employee non-rev that caused the chit-storm- it was a clueless paying passenger, who couldn't wait to stick her nose in what was none of her business to get her 15 minutes of social media fame.


The only true cost of having a dog is its death.

IC B2

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206
Likes: 5
L
las Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
L
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206
Likes: 5
OK- I read up on it. What leggings are and that "No leggings" is specifically spelled out for non-rev repeat- non-rev - travel on United. Paid tickets can wear them if they wish, and an agent isn't going to call them on it.

So the family should have been aware of it. Probably just something on this trip that slipped thru the cracks . No pun intended. smile

And yes, it is up to the Agent's discretion.

Last edited by las; 03/27/17.

The only true cost of having a dog is its death.

Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 4,831
Likes: 2
C
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
C
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 4,831
Likes: 2
Rules is rules, don't like it fly another airline.

Wasn't that long ago that flying was a suit and tie affair. Women wore skirts. Now it's like they're going to work out at Gold's Gym.

I used to fly...a lot. Always business class unless the flight was over 6 hours, then the company would let us fly First. Often, because I always wore a suit and tie, the gate attendant would bump me up to First...and they said as much. Sometimes pays to put in a little extra effort.


"A Republic, if you can keep it." ~ B. Franklin
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097


-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206
Likes: 5
L
las Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
L
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206
Likes: 5
smile

Depends on your definition of "help" !


The only true cost of having a dog is its death.

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Originally Posted by persiandog

sharia law is setting the dress code on United .


I know of a very expensive catholic girls school that wont let them wear slacks.
bizarre if not idiotic rule.
Even in the late 60s, my sister was allowed to wear slacks at a private catholic school.


-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
IC B3

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 15,590
Likes: 8
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 15,590
Likes: 8
If you ever have enjoyed non-rev flight benefits on an airline - a bennie provided by the airline for employees and some designated relatives - you will understand the rules/standards issue quite well - and why those folks did not fly. This has zero to do with the airline's policy on purchased tickets.

If you never have enjoyed the non-rev status and appreciated the reasons for the rules, you might be confused, or even agitated by this story - which is a non-issue blown up by certain media types.



NRA Member - Life, Benefactor, Patron
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,490
Likes: 20
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,490
Likes: 20
Put those same pants on the pre-teen girls who are the subject of this thread and they won't look nearly as good...except to a pedophile.


β€œIn a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell

It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 25,133
Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 25,133
Likes: 1
Sharia!!!! Lol.


β€œLife is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 18,024
Likes: 12
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 18,024
Likes: 12
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
They conveniently left out a VERY important part of the story. This is from a Foxnews report of the incident:
Quote
The girls, whose ages were not specified, were not allowed onto the morning flight because they were traveling under an employee travel pass that includes a specific dress code, airline spokesman Jonathan Guerin said.


Our daughter works for a large airline and we have flight benefits as her parents. Employees have a limited number of guest passes that they can give to friends and other relatives. When flying as an employee or AN EMPLOYEE'S GUEST, they're representing the airline and they have a strict dress code that must be followed. If they don't like it, they can buy a regular ticket.

These girls violated the dress code so they can't fly under the terms of the guest pass. Cut and dried. They're welcome to go buy tickets if they don't want to play by the rules.


My Dad was an airline employee and we flew non-revenue: we had to wear our church clothes.


"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

We are all Rhodesians now.






Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Put those same pants on the pre-teen girls who are the subject of this thread and they won't look nearly as good...except to a pedophile.


Oh FFS seriously , pedos will even look at babies in prams, or anything else that interests them no matter how the child
is dressed , next thing youll say is kids/young teens shouldn't wear bathers at the river, lake or beach or neigbors pool.

I wouldn't exactly accuse this girl as being dressed as a pedo magnet.

http://www.cheapleggings.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Kids-Leggings-Online-1-800x1066.jpg

and ones like this should be complimented for representing her country with her leggings,
not asked to change because of pinhead Co. 'policy'

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...al-1369788678_1024x1024.png?v=1421880028


Catholic and Anglican pedo priests get turned on by alter boys in full length vestments!

http://www.desta.it/module/BlueShop/BlueShop/getImgFromBlob/prod/20554?w=288&h=425&zc=1


-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,140
Likes: 5
A
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
A
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,140
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Put those same pants on the pre-teen girls who are the subject of this thread and they won't look nearly as good...except to a pedophile.


Oh FFS seriously , pedos will even look at babies in prams, or anything else that interests them no matter how the child
is dressed , next thing youll say is kids/young teens shouldn't wear bathers at the river, lake or beach or neigbors pool.

I wouldn't exactly accuse this girl as being dressed as a pedo magnet.

http://www.cheapleggings.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Kids-Leggings-Online-1-800x1066.jpg

and ones like this should be complimented for representing her country with her leggings,
not asked to change because of pinhead Co. 'policy'

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...al-1369788678_1024x1024.png?v=1421880028


Either would be under dressed to represent the company.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper


Either would be under dressed to represent the company.


Well I also consider the paying customers than an airline carries as representative of Co.
values & standards , Numerous clubs and establishments require a dress code for their
financial members. Despite the fact they are paying for the services they are receiving,
theres no relaxation on dress code.

You either have A std or you don't, rather than a double std.

If I see regular customers boarding with permitted leggings , then to me thats the dress std.
representative of the carrier. Same if I go for a drink and notice they allow face-neck tattoos
and biker club patch colors...The staff may have to wear Armani suites, but that would be
irrelevant to me. The std that they have set, is the lowest permissible one.


-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 18,024
Likes: 12
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 18,024
Likes: 12
Back when people dressed up for flying:



"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

We are all Rhodesians now.






Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 16,300
Likes: 4
A
add Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 16,300
Likes: 4
Most non-revs pay something for standby.

Not all majors have a dress-code and will often bump you up to first-class if open.

Shorts, flip-flops, dinner and an open bar.... aah, thank you Dxlta!



Epstein didn't kill himself.

"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"

Biden didn't win the election.
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 26,524
RWE Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 26,524
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by persiandog
what if dress code was head scarf , would you have agreed to it?

P.

It's their airline, and their rules.

I thought most of y'all were all about businesses setting their own rules.

I guess that only applies when you happen to agree?


Have YOU read ANY of the replies in this thread?
SMDH


He was minding his own business.

Which apparently does not include the other replies.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

102 members (21, 35, 7887mm08, afisher, 257_X_50, 9 invisible), 916 guests, and 831 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,193,978
Posts18,519,919
Members74,020
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.088s Queries: 54 (0.031s) Memory: 0.9215 MB (Peak: 1.0281 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-18 09:45:16 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS