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Tesla claims to have 400,000 orders. So they sell 400,000 cars to folks who can afford a $100k car, then what? Where's Tesla's market after that?

Or what happens when other car makers start building electric cars for half the price?

They have "showrooms" in those states where they can't sell direct. They can show the car, test drive the car, even service the car, but they place any order through a seller in another state.

Market valuation has nothing to do with past performance, and everything with future performance. The market thinks that Tesla will grow nearly exponentially, and GM won't.

This.

It's cost them more to make the model S than the sales price. According to the former head of GM, cost do not drop as quickly as price, so he doesn't see how they can make money on the Model M either.

At some point this will be a momentous short opportunity. First time they miss a capital raise this stock could be cut in half.

And sometimes the market is wrong.

lol!

I call BS. Maybe 4,000 orders.

When auto giants like VW start to take electric cars seriously, they will be producing them on such a scale and price point,
that Tesla will just shrivel up and die.

People have tried to tell me how great Teslas future is, but they wont put their house on it... enough said.

VW will offer cheap mass market elec. cars the size of a Golf or Passat and also top-end
well established luxury market elec. cars, ...because VW GROUP owns- Audi, Porsche, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini.

The day Im ready to buy a proper elec. car, it wont be a Tesla.

Porsche-E, 300+ mile range , 15 minute charge.
http://www.businessinsider.com/pors...es-us-a-hint-of-what-will-come-in-2020-1

These electric cars might work OK in warmer areas of suburbia but not worth a bag of beans in colder rural areas.. Conversation piece, basically..

And bring yer wallet when (not if) it becomes time to change those batteries..

Distances in much of the West are just too great for electrics to be practical. They might be ok in cities but most car owners like to use them outside of town, too.

I have not checked this year but last year there was no dealer close enough to where i live in North Dakota to even make it home with if i bought one. Overnight charge up would be needed. No thanks. ED K

I drove my BIL's P90D last January.

I do the long range driving thing fairly regularly, so it's not for me, never mind the price tag.

But man, that thing is a rocket ship. Nothing, but nothing I've ever been in came close. Including a nowhere near stock big block '69 Camaro. Then there was the Lambo Diablo 5.7 liter...

Supposedly they'll do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. I don't know about that. I do know that 0-100 came in under 8 seconds by the stopwatch.

Oh, and the P100D is even faster: http://www.hybridcars.com/tesla-p100d-does-0-60-in-2-54-seconds-0-100-in-6-52/

Often mistaken, but never wrong.

The difference between GM and Tesla is the same as the difference between Sears and Amazon. One is shrinking and trying to hang on to their fading glory, while the other is changing the world around it.

GM is hanging on to it's old Glory. Tesla is changing the world around it. For example, Tesla will unveil it's Semi Truck in September. Where's GM's ?

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/247707-tesla-plans-sell-trucks-big-semis-pickups

Gm is manufacturing over 9 million vehicles and making money, while Tesla can't make the Model S for it's sales price.

Selling something for less then manufacturing cost is called a flawed business model.

There's no comparison between Jeff Bezos and Elan Musk. Musk is a dreamer. Bezos is an executor.

Musk dreams about changing the world. Bezos IS changing the world.

Like riding a bronc that ain't bucked yet. Risky business, if you ask me.

At some point I intend to make a lot of money on Tesla....on the short side.

Short Amazon?

No way.

Lets wait see how tesla trucks survive in the coming decades against motor tech giants like
Mercedes-Daimler and VW Groups M.A.N. and Scania electric trucks.

Scania are testing wireless inductive charging from under the roads surface. and also testing 'old-fashioned'
pantograph overhead wiring for mains power supply on highways, which also charges batteries for the times
when the truck needs to travel off the highway.

Freightliner (Mercedes) has been dicking around with hybrid vehicles, but they are just modified standard trucks. None of the big manufacturers of either passenger vehicles or class 8 vehicles have a full-up electric vehicle that makes customers happy.

For more than 10 years, Jeff Bezos' Amazon strategy of "get big first" was ridiculed. Sears was making money, and Amazon lost money, quarter after quarter after quarter. Amazon had that dreaded negative PE for years. Then, after 15 years of hard work, Amazon was "successful" and Bezos was an "instant success".

I'm not buying Tesla (I don't do individual stocks), but I would not bet against Elon Musk with my own money. There are too many extremely happy customers.

I wonder how that will work out for cold weather, back woods hunting. It'll likely be an urbanmobile.

I was surprised by the number of Tesla charge stations in Wyoming and Colorado.

Never saw an actual Tesla though.





Dave

Tesla touts a nation wide fast charger network. I looked at their SUV last Fall. If purchased before the first of the year, the vehicle came with free charging station access. They claimed they'd begin charging a fee, which would be less than the cost of gasoline, in January. At the end of the day, the range was just too limited.