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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Two of Saddam Hussein's aides were hanged before dawn on Monday, the Iraqi government said, admitting that the head of his half-brother Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti was also ripped from his body during the execution.
On the defensive after international uproar over sectarian taunts during the illicitly filmed hanging of the ousted president two weeks ago, government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh insisted there was "no violation of procedure" during the executions of Barzan and former judge Awad Hamed al-Bander.
But defense lawyers and politicians from Saddam's once dominant Sunni Arab minority expressed fury at the fate of Barzan, Saddam's once feared intelligence chief, and there was also skepticism and condemnation of Iraq's Shi'ite-dominated government across the mostly Sunni-ruled Arab world.
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"The convicts were not subjected to any mistreatment," Dabbagh said describing the beheading by the rope as a rare mishap. "Their rights were not violated. There was no chanting."
Government adviser Bassam al-Husseini said the damage to the body was "an act of God". During his trial for crimes against humanity over the killings of 148 Shi'ites from Dujail, a witness said Barzan's agents put people in a meat grinder.
The treatment of corpses is a particularly sensitive issue in Muslim culture. Video footage of Saddam's body lying on a trolley showed what appeared to be a wound on his throat.
Hangmen gauge the length of rope needed to snap the neck of the condemned but not to create enough force to sever the head. Continued...
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Did they show an equal amount of anger when Saddam's people were grinding up victims or sawing their heads off? At least this SOB went quickly.
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It sure would be nice if the Muslims had the same regard for life as they seem to have for corpses. Sounds kind of backward, if you ask me!
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Hey, my post disappeared! Is that a hint? OK.
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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had no idea you were gonna be so shook up by the sad turn of events. (grin)
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When you said "long drop" I thought you were going to talk about standing in front of a urinal.
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Soli Deo Gloria!
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They deserve it just like any other murderer or rapist, make the exicution fit the crime. Let the people who were victimized let the guilty know what they feel and how happy they are that the animal is getting what is coming to them
Declaration of Independance, in ENGLISH
U.S. Constitution, in ENGLISH
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If you cannot or don't want to learn ENGLISH, go back to the third world cesspool you came from
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News report: "Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, former head of the Iraqi intelligence service..." You just can't make up stuff this good. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Half-minute accuracy, while pleasant to observe, is in no way superior to one-minute accuracy in any serious rifle.
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When you said "long drop" I thought you were going to talk about standing in front of a urinal.
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Soli Deo Gloria! When I saw it my dyslexia kicked in and I thought it said "thong drop". Did some purty fast mouse clickin' for me.
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It's not rocket science, there's a simple to follow table. I'd like to think the executioner did it on pourpose, as in, "watch this y'all". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> 14.0 stone (196 lb, 89 kg) 8 ft 0 in (244 cm) 5 ft 5 in (165 cm) 13.5 stone (189 lb, 86 kg) 8 ft 2 in (249 cm) 5 ft 6 in (168 cm) 13.0 stone (182 lb, 82�kg) 8 ft 4 in (254 cm) 5 ft 8 in (173 cm) 12.5 stone (175 lb, 79�kg) 8 ft 6 in (259 cm) 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 12.0 stone (168 lb, 76�kg) 8 ft 8 in (264 cm) 6 ft 1 in (185 cm) 11.5 stone (161 lb, 73�kg) 8 ft 10 in (269 cm) 6 ft 4 in (193 cm) 11.0 stone (154 lb, 70 kg) 9 ft 0 in (274 cm) 6 ft 6 in (198 cm) 10.5 stone (147 lb, 66�kg) 9 ft 2 in (279 cm) 6 ft 8 in (203 cm) 10.0 stone (140 lb, 63�kg) 9 ft 4 in (284 cm) 7 ft 1 in (215 cm) 9.5 stone (133 lb, 60�kg) 9 ft 6 in (290 cm) 7 ft 5 in (226 cm) 9.0 stone (126 lb, 57�kg) 9 ft 8 in (295 cm) 7 ft 7 in (231 cm) 8.5 stone (119 lb, 54 kg) 9 ft 10 in (300 cm) 7 ft 9 in (236 cm) 8.0 stone (112 lb, 51 kg) 10 ft 0 in (305 cm) 8 ft 0 in (244 cm)
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A government is the most dangerous threat to man�s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.
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Qtip, you found my lost post...I thought this was going to be about those darned high-on-the-wall urinals, too.
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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The treatment of corpses is a particularly sensitive issue in Muslim culture. That's a hot one. I guess they mean "The treatment of muslim corpses is a particularly sensitive issue in Muslim culture".
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis
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It's not rocket science, there's a simple to follow table. I'd like to think the executioner did it on pourpose, as in, "watch this y'all". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> 14.0 stone (196 lb, 89 kg) 8 ft 0 in (244 cm) 5 ft 5 in (165 cm) 13.5 stone (189 lb, 86 kg) 8 ft 2 in (249 cm) 5 ft 6 in (168 cm) 13.0 stone (182 lb, 82�kg) 8 ft 4 in (254 cm) 5 ft 8 in (173 cm) 12.5 stone (175 lb, 79�kg) 8 ft 6 in (259 cm) 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 12.0 stone (168 lb, 76�kg) 8 ft 8 in (264 cm) 6 ft 1 in (185 cm) 11.5 stone (161 lb, 73�kg) 8 ft 10 in (269 cm) 6 ft 4 in (193 cm) 11.0 stone (154 lb, 70 kg) 9 ft 0 in (274 cm) 6 ft 6 in (198 cm) 10.5 stone (147 lb, 66�kg) 9 ft 2 in (279 cm) 6 ft 8 in (203 cm) 10.0 stone (140 lb, 63�kg) 9 ft 4 in (284 cm) 7 ft 1 in (215 cm) 9.5 stone (133 lb, 60�kg) 9 ft 6 in (290 cm) 7 ft 5 in (226 cm) 9.0 stone (126 lb, 57�kg) 9 ft 8 in (295 cm) 7 ft 7 in (231 cm) 8.5 stone (119 lb, 54 kg) 9 ft 10 in (300 cm) 7 ft 9 in (236 cm) 8.0 stone (112 lb, 51 kg) 10 ft 0 in (305 cm) 8 ft 0 in (244 cm) Now that, I say that, son, is what you call valuable information. I knew there was a reason I joined the 24 hourcampfire, and there it is. I'm going to print that up, lamitate it and put it in my wallet. You never know when you're going to need something like that. That's going in right between my M1 Garand serial numbers and my list of CB ten-codes<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> BTW: How do you read this chart? If I'm dropping a 170lb poacher I just caught in one one of my stands, do I drop him 8'7" or 6'0"? Or do I just kick the camp stool out from underneath him and let him dangle there?
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"170lb poacher I just caught in one one of my stands" That would depend on how high up your stand was! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
A government is the most dangerous threat to man�s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.
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"170lb poacher I just caught in one one of my stands" That would depend on how high up your stand was! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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News report: "Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, former head of the Iraqi intelligence service..." You just can't make up stuff this good. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> "Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, former decapitated head of the Iraqi intelligence service..." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Don
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