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Gents, Came across this Surgeon .223 Rifle and it really rang my bell so to speak. The question at hand is can anyone pick out whether they are McMillan Remington Hunter(s) or McMillan Hunters. The latter being limited to a #4 contour barrel with a 1" cylinder. My purpose of this excercise is to replicate Surgeon .223 in 6.5mm... Incredible little rifle off the Surgeon website in .223. Does not look like a Surgeon action with the rail extending past the front of the receiver. It DOES look #4ish on contour and maybe in the 1" range for cylinder. Thoughts? Opposite side of a McMillan Remington Hunter Thinking this a Remington Hunter from the amount of drop in the stock. Borden Action. Ideas.... Mcmillan Hunter #1 McMillan Hunter #2 The barrel listed on the Surgeon Site is a "20 Heavy Palma #4 Contour". Never heard of that, however, that does not mean all that much. Anyone? Thank you.. Regards, Matt.
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That pic with bipod and scope is a MountainRifle stock.
Hard to tell the diff between the two "hunters" in pics as the fore end width is all that changes.
I prefer the McM Hunter fwiw
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That pic with bipod and scope is a MountainRifle stock.
Hard to tell the diff between the two "hunters" in pics as the fore end width is all that changes.
I prefer the McM Hunter fwiw Mountain Rifle doesn't have a cheekpiece that big... My guess is if the stock in question is inletted for a #20 Palma, it's a Rem Hunter as I think a McM Hunter would have an issue with that much barrel. Tanner
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The stock in the pic with the bipod is a Holland stock, made for them by McMillan.
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That action must be an RSR instead of a 591, not sure if they still produce those.
The contour sure doesn't look like a heavy palma to me, I'd go with your first stab at it being a #4 or so.
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The stock in the pic with the bipod is a Holland stock, made for them by McMillan. Truth.
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The Surgeon is a McMillan Hunter. The grip is the give-away.
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arent they the same stock except one has a wider (varmit rifle) forearm for larger barrels ?
if this is the case order the one that will work best with the barrel contour you want to use...and as others have stated the stock with the borden action in it is a mcmillan stock made to Darrel Hollands specifications with a high comb for larger scopes....
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arent they the same stock except one has a wider (varmit rifle) forearm for larger barrels ?
if this is the case order the one that will work best with the barrel contour you want to use...and as others have stated the stock with the borden action in it is a mcmillan stock made to Darrel Hollands specifications with a high comb for larger scopes.... I think this is correct. I have several Mcmillan hunter stocks and had one Remington hunter stock. The latter was wider and squarish, as opposed to being rounded like the Mcmillan hunter. I did not care for the Remington hunter.
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That shank is way longer than an 1" more like 2" and for a 223 Rem I prefer a 1" shank, some builders just like to use the whole shank like it's too much trouble to shorten it!
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That pic with bipod and scope is a MountainRifle stock.
Hard to tell the diff between the two "hunters" in pics as the fore end width is all that changes.
I prefer the McM Hunter fwiw Mountain Rifle doesn't have a cheekpiece that big... My guess is if the stock in question is inletted for a #20 Palma, it's a Rem Hunter as I think a McM Hunter would have an issue with that much barrel. Tanner Also, the Mountain Rifle style that McM Copied from Remington has a classic style comb, not a monte carlo style. I'm a big fan of the McM Hunter style and have them installed on Remington 700 SAs, Ruger 77 Hawkeye SAs, and Vanguard2s. The V2s are good rifles out of the box, but swapping stocks in the 223 and 6.5 Creedmoor made them much better, even if the stock were each a bit more expensive than the complete rifles were when I bought them.
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