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we've all wondered how many earthlings we can pack into the spaces down here on the earth. i know i have wondered. right now about 7 billion, maybe a shade more.
but there's a max out there, at some level? after that max level is reached should we earthlings strive to maintain that number, or allow the numbers to slide a little?
i'm thinking we'd want them to slide a little, but governments would likely be in a fervor? less voters, less citizens, less workers? what would it mean to begin backing off on human population after the maximum was reached? carrying capacity is real, or i have heard. i wonder what the carrying capacity of the earth's human population is? i'll bet it could go pretty high if we all go vegetarian? i'm not a vegetarian btw. just asking, that's all.
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I've said for awhile that fresh water and food production for the United States is a matter of national security in an era of over population and climate change.
When the time comes that there isn't enough for everyone, and the people with serious weapons want their ration of rice, Isolationism won't be a bad word
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It'll just tip over and capsize.
Ask congressman Johnson.
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i can't ever remember if he was referring to guam or okinawa. i can't seem to keep all those little south pacific islands straight in my mind. johnson sure is better than the cutest little communist in congress that preceded him. and no, i'm not in his district, thank you very much. the ways it's gerry=mandered there's folks who wont' ever get a voice in gov't. and so it is.
but their neighbors down the road hear their pleas for help.
so, we maximize the earth's population of humans. ok. so we strive to keep it that way, or allow a little slippage to occur. it's a serious subject.
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This earth could produce far more food that it does if idiocy didn't rule. Just what we waste in biofuel would feed some of the small countries.
Someone mentioned water. That's a big one in the west where irrigation is necessary. Idaho alone has 10's of thousands of acres of what could be good farmland but we're short of water for what's already being used. Of course us outdoorsmen wouldn't want our BLM land turned into farms. That would really affect the elk hunting.
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Gus, many in biology believe humans are just another life form. Many, if not most life forms, in an unrestricted or lightly restricted growth phase don't just slow down when they reach maximum carrying capacity.............. they crash. and then go through cycles of boom and bust. Assuming other parameters don't change drastically that is Will it happen to us? Who knows, we are different in a way, as we have "technology" on our side, right? Geno PS, the ALIENS are coming to absorb our nutrients anyway, so let's just keep on keepin' on.
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13% of all of our yearly corn harvest is sent to 100 foreign countries, for a very cheap rate..that's a lot of "free" biofuel.
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If a frog farts under water,will Uranus know it?
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Men have the ability to see ahead and predict some catastrophes in advance. While they might not be avoidable, many of the consequences can be reduced.
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yep. it would be good, or could be, that we could sit down and bang out some positive outcomes.
right now, it looks like food prices in my local kroger are edging higher. no problem, they have to make a profit or lock the doors. lot's of folks have alt paperwork/money. it spends just like "real" money.
my overall point is that the global population is increasing, and little to no thought even enters the picture. maybe the system is functioning, but maybe there's better ways to look at the reality of humans walking around down here on the earth?
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If a frog farts under water,will Uranus know it? We already have a thread going for that kind of inane reply sir. And you know where it is, no excuse for this kind of behavior. Geno PS
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'Cities' are overpopulated, the world is not!
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Interesting,and I thought Playboy was good only for the articles.
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'Cities' are overpopulated, the world is not! Yes, but if those cities depopulate they will have to live in your neighborhood, take over arable land, restrict your freedom of movement (they will want private property no doubt). And keep breeding more "resource consumers". But our monetary system demands that, growth is the king, the ultimate objective, damn the costs, environmental, social, and some might say spiritual. Geno
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Interesting,and I thought Playboy was good only for the articles. Huh? Are there more than articles in Playboy? Learn something new every day. Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Gus, many in biology believe humans are just another life form. Many, if not most life forms, in an unrestricted or lightly restricted growth phase don't just slow down when they reach maximum carrying capacity.............. they crash. and then go through cycles of boom and bust. Assuming other parameters don't change drastically that is Will it happen to us? Who knows, we are different in a way, as we have "technology" on our side, right? Geno PS, the ALIENS are coming to absorb our nutrients anyway, so let's just keep on keepin' on. But we can, and have, drastically changed the parameters in the past, and as Rock Chuck points out, we can change them much more.
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Don't mean nothing,because we will all be dead by then.
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Move out of the cities? The ultimate goal of the radical animal rights bunch is to move all people out of the great plains/Rocky Mtn area and turn it all into a massive wildlife refuge. The people would be herded into a handful of huge tent cities.
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we will have a war or pandemic, nature has its checks and balances.
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